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[REVIEW]: DASF: A data analytics software framework for distributed environments #4052
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👋🏼 @d-eggert, @uellue, @sk1p, @cjwu this is the review thread for the paper. All of our communications will happen here from now on. All reviewers have checklists at the top of this thread with the JOSS requirements. As you go over the submission, please check any items that you feel have been satisfied. There are also links to the JOSS reviewer guidelines. The JOSS review is different from most other journals. Our goal is to work with the authors to help them meet our criteria instead of merely passing judgment on the submission. As such, the reviewers are encouraged to submit issues and pull requests on the software repository. When doing so, please mention #4052 so that a link is created to this thread (and I can keep an eye on what is happening). Please also feel free to comment and ask questions on this thread. In my experience, it is better to post comments/questions/suggestions as you come across them instead of waiting until you've reviewed the entire package. We aim for reviews to be completed within about 2-4 weeks but considering upcoming holidays, feel free to start whenever it works for you. Please let me know if any of you require significantly more time. We can also use Whedon (our bot) to set automatic reminders if you know you'll be away for a known period of time. Please feel free to ping me (@martinfleis) if you have any questions/concerns. |
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@uellue, @sk1p, @cjwu Please note, that this review should look at the whole DASF ecosystem composed of 4 packages stored at https://git.geomar.de/digital-earth/dasf, not just the |
@martinfleis would it be possible to link to that also in the paper instead of an individual repository? Otherwise this is confusing for readers. Alternatively one could include several repository links. Since there are also other projects that are spread over several repositories, linking to several repositories or a project could make sense as an option for JOSS. |
State of the fieldRight now this seems to be entirely missing in the paper. It should compare DASF with other software to build web applications and do RPC, and point out what the unique selling points of DASF are. From my own experience I know that interactive visualization of large amounts of data is not solved ideally in the "standard" frameworks for web applications, so this could be a strong point of DASF. If that is the case, it should be fleshed out through a more detailed comparison. Probably that should be included in the DASF documentation and referenced from the paper. This relates to the general documentation issue that I created there. Unfortunately https://git.geomar.de seems to be down at the moment, I'll try to add a link later. |
Service desk featureReferring to my previous comment, the Issue that I tried to create via Service Desk seems to be missing. I sent to and received the message Creating pull requestshttps://git.geomar.de/digital-earth/dasf/dasf-messaging-python#contributing does describe how to set up for local development. However, it should also include instructions on how to make improvements available upstream, in particular since 3rd parties can't create an account on https://git.geomar.de, apparently. |
Reliability of https://git.geomar.deThe repository is "on and off" at this time. This makes reviewing very hard. Is this a temporary issue or more persistent? A reliable hosting platform would be an absolute "must", and with all the previous discussions in #4009 and the issues with the Service Desk feature (my comment above), perhaps a better hosting platform for a public OSS project should be selected? |
@d-eggert I'll halt my review for now. Please let me know when I can reliably access the repository and create Issues so that I can continue with the review. |
@d-eggert is it possible that https://git.geomar.de uses some form of IP blacklisting or rate limiting? Sometimes it is unreachable from my home IP, sometimes from my institutional IP at FZ Jülich. So apparently the server is not down, but the traffic doesn't reach it. How is it from your internal network? |
@uellue thanks for starting the review this quickly. Regarding your service desk issue, it is there. For privacy reasons service desk issues are flagged confidential, so only registered users can see them. As soon as there is some activity going on regarding your issue, you will get a notification via email. Regarding the reliability of the server, i didn't experience them. But there was some maintenance downtime scheduled recently. Maybe they aren't finished yet. Maybe @cfgmr can elaborate on that. |
Quite frankly, that is not very user-friendly. It feels like sending feedback to |
Now I can confirm that an external IP is apparently blacklisted after only a few clicks in the repo web interface. It can be triggered reliably by looking at the commit history a few times, and is apparently per IP. This should be resolved before I can continue reviewing. |
In general I agree with your view. We already discussed the service desk option to some extend with @martinfleis in the pre-review. I just looked at the service desk configuration and there is unfortunately no option to disable this behavior. What's possible is, that I remove the confidential flag, once I read the issue, so I can make sure that it does not contain sensible information, e.g. since you didn't remove your email signature, there are some addresses and phone numbers in there. This might be fine for you, but maybe not for everyone. Btw. you can send a follow-up by replying to the corresponding notification emails |
Ah OK. That would be very important information for the user that should be contained in the response e-mail.
That should also be described in the response e-mail. Also, that puts a permanent burden on your team to do this quickly. Quite frankly, why not just host the project on github.com? |
I simply used the default template. I will have a look at how to change this and add the corresponding information.
You are absolutely right, if I had a say in this, I would consider it. But I have to follow certain rules from my institution, so it's not me to decide this. |
I removed your email signature from the issue and removed the confidential flag. https://git.geomar.de/digital-earth/dasf/dasf-messaging-python/-/issues/41 |
@cfgmr can you confirm this? I also access the Geomar git from home and have no such issues. |
Yes, I've also heard these data protection discussions in other context. Fortunately that's not an issue here at FZ Jülich. Since Geomar is also Helmholtz like FZ Jülich and also operates in Germany, perhaps the policies at Geomar could be improved? The information in public OSS projects is generally public. The closest thing to personal information are names and e-mail addresses as part of Git commits, and this is publicly available independent if it is hosted on premise or externally. That means I don't see an issue to have this hosted by 3rd parties -- they could access everything anyway. If it was confidential or private information (technology to be patented or patient data, for example), it would be a different story, of course. At least here in Jülich there's a strong push to do both innovation and data science, the Helmholtz mission is large scale research infrastructure, and developing and maintaining software like DASF fits that mission perfectly. That means policies that make it difficult to do that successfully should be reviewed carefully. The limits of https://git.geomar.de/ look like a real burden for the success of DASF, and perhaps this could be taken higher up at Geomar for that reason. |
Also, feel free to quote me on that and/or include me in the discussions. Maybe it helps to show that this is a larger concern and not just users complaining. :-) |
@martinfleis do you have everything to wrap this up, or is still something missing? |
@editorialbot set v0.3.0 as version |
Done! version is now v0.3.0 |
@editorialbot set 10.5880/GFZ.1.4.2021.008 as archive |
Done! Archive is now 10.5880/GFZ.1.4.2021.008 |
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Thank you @d-eggert! I'm going to hand this over now to the associate EiC for the final steps. |
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Everything looks good to me! |
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Submitting author: @d-eggert (Daniel Eggert)
Repository: https://git.geomar.de/digital-earth/dasf/dasf-messaging-python
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Version: v0.3.0
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