Update to TB 128/Nebula: asking for donations

[opto]

There are a lot of changes in TB 115 (and now TB 128 which is still being totally rewritten)), because the main window has been converted to html, and many global access points to internal functions have been moved, renamed or are gone.

So the addon update for this TB update (115) is really a lot of work, so donations are very much appreciated.

Donations by Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=6K57TUFSNMVSJ&source=url

EDIT: the news on TB 128 are ca. 142 posts further down

many thanks, Klaus

[PresGas]

I donated! Good luck with the work. Another thing to mention/post or document is contributing. Never hurts to re-iterate that even if it is posted somewhere.

[mdonz]

Hi Klaus
FYI:
"Donations to this recipient aren't supported in this country" (Paypal states) - that's me trying to contribute from New Zealand. Never seen this before. Hope it's temporary and will try in a few days again.

[xyxzxyz]

donated

[Olifair]

Also donated. I hope that TB115 is not so messed up that is does not allow anymore the functions necessary for Nostalgy.
It would also be great if updating to TB115 would solve the problem with accessing the history :-)
Good luck
Oliver

[adamkerz]

Donated - not a problem from Australia, I guess sometimes NZ is second best, @mdonz

[Hubbitus]

Hello, @opto.

Thanks for your great add-ons. I've use nostalgy++ for years.

Unfortunately, PayPal does not work in many countries (it also "looks works" in some countries, but do not allow link bank cards).

Please consider taking donations in some alternative methods like https://payeer.com and cryptocurrencies.

[inokani]

I got "This organization is currently ineligible to receive donations." from Paypal. This happened in Finland, Europe - where PayPal does work normally. (Does "organization" refer to Opto/Klaus or Mozilla/Thunderbird?)

[mdonz]

Hi @inokani. Organisation must relate to Opto/Klaus in this situation. I still don't understand why some of us from overseas cannot use Paypal for this (I am using it often for other international payments and have never seen this before). It works even from Australia @adamkerz ;-)

[dochego]

@inokani same here, from the UK: "This organisation is currently ineligible to receive donations."

[ecogit]

Here in Switzerland the Paypal link even returns:

This organization is currently ineligible to receive donations.

Is it possible to remit instead via bank-transfer (IBAN)?

[opto]

Hi all,

many thanks for your willingness to support the development.

Overnight, I have been confronted with Paypal's notice that nothing goes until they have checked my passport. They say it may need up to three days, I will report here once it is open again.
Bank account: as soon as the number is out in the open, it could be abused by others. So I am hesitant about that. But maybe digital banks are more protected, I will inquire about that.

many thanks for your support.
By the way, the 'organisation' is me - it is Paypal's way of talking of their clients.

Klaus

[opto]

so ... Paypal is working again. Thanks for considering to help.

Klaus

[mdonz]

Let's hope it will start working from everywhere soon. For NZ it is currently still showing the same issue. Will try later again.

[rweigle]

I have donated as well and it worked for me.

[Hubbitus]

What about alternative methods?

[SergeLalonde]

Donation made. Thank you for your excellent work with Nostalgy++ and XNote++.
I'm looking forward to the TB 115 update since TB updated automatically and I've lost both functionalities. :-(

[dbergol]

Dontaion made!! Is there already an idea, when the update to TB115 might be available?

[bpangburn]

Hello. Love Nostalgy++ and happy to contribute. Are you already working on the changes or do you need a certain threshold to dedicate time to the (significant) upgrades? We are having to upgrade an internal utility plugin so getting familiar with 115. Are there any bits that you'd like to sub out. Possible we could also assist with some coding.

Thanks again for your efforts!

[ThomasHeinrichSchmidt]

Donated today.

[moritzp]

Donated 😊

[lepokle]

Donated, thank you for your efforts!

This plugin really increases my efficiency with mails drastically.

[bpangburn]

Donated. Thank you for your work!

[obfischer]

Donated already some days ago! Thank you for your work

[opto]

thanks for all of your support.

I am actively working on this and the main function (move, copy etc) is ok when I load everything into the new main window.
But now, the tabs are truely separated so this may be a bad approach if we issue a command and then change tab to another tab maybe showing another account.

So maybe some of the code needs to be loaded into the tabs instead of the main window.

That needs some analysis, then, i will note here and put a test version into releases.

Klaus

[sirlampi]

Donated already some days ago as well! This addon is essential! Thanks a lot for your great work!

[ecogit]

88 symbolises fortune and good luck in Chinese culture. I just donated accordingly ;-)

Thank you for developing further this fabulous software!

[Hubbitus]

I still can't unfortunately :(

[konstantinkoschke]

Thank you very much for your work, Klaus!

You should have received a donation from a @tngtech.com PayPal account. nostalgy allows us to efficiently work through thousands of e-mails every single day - we appreciate your work a lot!

For TNG Technology Consulting GmbH
Konstantin

[ghost]

Donated for 115 and now again for 128 - thanks a lot for your work - for me it works perfectly again!!

[olx54]

Le 29/08/2024 à 14:29, Dave Musicant a écrit :

Thank you so much for all of your work! 4.1.14 fixes the add-on tab problem for me. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#210 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AC7TY3ZYYUMUM7KPB774SVTZT4HZNAVCNFSM6AAAAAAZ6PBOUGVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDGMJXGUYTIMZVGQ>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

For me too. Thanks.

…

-- Olivier LACROIX

[slusallek]

Happy to report that all I need for moving emails works for me (Kubuntu 24.10, Snap). Added another donation! Thanks a lot, Philipp Am 28.08.24 um 12:13 schrieb Klaus Buecher:

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first version/TB 128 for testing and for comments: https://github.com/opto/nostalgy-xpi/releases/tag/v4.1.13 <https://github.com/opto/nostalgy-xpi/releases/tag/v4.1.13> — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#210 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABDSSJXENDTX3YMHJDLNJQLZTWPEZAVCNFSM6AAAAAAZ6PBOUGVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDGMJUHEYDGOJZGI>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[oschulz]

New version works fine on my 128.0.1 - thanks so much @opto !

[ecogit]

With latest version (v4.1.14 from Aug 29), most important shortcuts and actions fly well on my 128er Thunderbirds (Pop!_OS / Ubuntu and Windows 11).

Thanks for the adaption @opto, I just donated again 🍻`

[barrythrew]

When trying to move a collapsed thread, v4.1.14 only moves one message at a time, not the entire thread.

[Remiol]

Can you please change permissions of your add-on?
Current permission: Have full, unrestricted access to Thunderbird, and your computer

[opto]

unfortunately, that is not possible. The addon needs access to Thnderbird (e.g. to prepare folder lists, listen for the pressed keys).
The addon does not access your computer.

Unfortunately, the Thunderbird team has combined those two warnings into one. They provide only one permission level, although "access Thunderbird" would be sufficient.

The addon is reviewed by Thunderbird team members in person before download is allowed. They wouldn't allow bad actions (admittedly, if they see it in the code).

After being reviewed, it is not possible to add any bad action to the code, because the code then is on their server for download.

The team wants us addon authors to move to the new addon style which can be reviewed automatically (but also those addons could delete all your mailbox, if you give the delete permission). So they are not automatically more secure if someone really wants to do bad stuff.).
So I think the strong wording has the effect to scare users away, no matter whether the addon truely accesses your computer (Nostalgy does not).

What do I do if I install such an addon into my TB? Look at the comments on the addon download page, maybe at github issues, and verify whether there is anything that I deem suspicious. I once found an addon where users claimed that it "talks" to a suspicious home server without notifying users beforehand. I didn't install it (But also that could be done by the new addon style.)

[RobertKorteweg]

I still can't get the addon (4.14) to work, was at 128.1 on windows 11, even upgraded to 128.2. Addon screen shows the addon, i can configure it, can open the rules window and am able to disable/enable it. In the message window the addon suggestion does not show and pressing S does nothing. Any suggestions? Might a reinstall of TB work?

[opto]

which OS? Any red messages in the error console?

Sometimes this helps:
close addon tab
close all Nostalgy tabs. (also the updated tab)
Close TB (best file->exit). All child windows need to be closed.

Wait 30 sec for all processes to finish.
Restart TB

[opto]

just saw that it is win 11, just as mine ...

[olx54]

@RobertKorteweg

For me (on MacOs Sonoma), few keys did not have the good function. For example, J not junked the messages but reply to all. I was forced to install tbkeys-lite. It shows all mapping keys and you can remove the mapping. After that, I will be enable to put my own bindings for Nostalgy.

[YXgithubyx]

where is everybody from?

[YXgithubyx]

leave a contact information

[r2evans]

where is everybody from?

and

leave a contact information

@YXgithubyx questions like that are usually off-topic on issues unless there is explicit need to pass errors/logs/artifacts via back-channel (perhaps for privacy concerns). Outside of that, I personally feel they are bordering on "phishing". If you use TB and Nostalgy++ and have something constructive to say for this issue (updating Nostalgy++ to TB's ever-changing API), then I welcome your contribution.

[marcg1]

Here is one little thing I noticed. If I select a whole thread of e-mails and hit s, then only the first one is moved. That used to be more convenient. (Maybe I am also not clear on what "I select a whole thread" is in TB 128

Seeing the same with 4.1.14 and TB 128.2.0esr. If I select a collapsed thread and hit "S" (save), only the first message in the thread is saved. If I expand the thread, select all messages in it, and hit "S", all messages are saved.

[dbergol]

One more question: are there plans to get "undo" up-and-running despite the already mentioned problems with it? Desperately missing it...
Best - Daniel

[opto]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1917827

discussed in length with John from TB team recently, but he needs more time

[dbergol]

Thanks for the update and thanks again for your continuous work!

[ExpPhysU]

There are a lot of changes in TB 115 (and now TB 128 which is still being totally rewritten)), because the main window has been converted to html, and many global access points to internal functions have been moved, renamed or are gone.

So the addon update for this TB update (115) is really a lot of work, so donations are very much appreciated.

Donations by Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=6K57TUFSNMVSJ&source=url

EDIT: the news on TB 128 are ca. 142 posts further down

many thanks, Klaus

I installed the test version on TB 128.2.0esr. It works, but it block the access to the settings menu and te Add-on menu. The y are not opened, when called via the hamburger menu or via the main menu. Especially, the add-ons-management is blocked. The only be repaired by overwriting nostalgy.opto.one.xpi in the extensions folder by a backup copy of 4.1.12
Thanks for the addon

[opto]

@ExpPhysU : which operating system? I cannot reproduce this on Win 11 when there are no other addons.

[TommyMel]

I have the same problem. Every time I try to open the Addons menu or the lightning calendar nothing happens.

When trying, the console says:

javaScript error: chrome://nostalgy/content/edit_prefs.js, line 729: TypeError: evt.originalTarget is undefined

Ubuntu 24.04
Thunderbird 128.1.0esr

[dochego]

Using v4.1.14 on Thunderbird 128.2.2 on KDE Neon (Ubuntu 22.04), X11, without problem.
@ExpPhysU and @TommyMel are you using Wayland by any chance?

[cratoo]

Since (auto)updating Thunderbird to 128.2.3esr on my Mac neither fast-saving (Shift-s) nor manual saving (s, then typing folder and hitting return) work anymore. Switching folder by hitting g and typing folder still works though.
Ah and hiding folder pane with L also does not do anything anymore. And I'm quite sure with 128.2.2 this all still worked.

[cratoo]

Had to reboot today and afterwards the shortcuts work again. I'm quite sure I had restarted after the update already, but as the reboot seems to have fixed it, I wanted to post an update about this.

[tommymeldgaard]

@dochego - no, using X11

[kohlhase]

I have been running nostalgy 4.1.14 very happily on TB 128 for a couple of weeks so far, but now TB self-updated to 131 after a reboot, and now Nostalgy is "incompatible" again :-(

[knoajp]

Hi @opto . CC: @cwittern @h-ish .
Still, donations don't work in Japan. Can I directly donate to your email address via PayPal?
Or, Wise account will take less fee on transactions. 😉
https://wise.com/invite/ihpc/konosukey6

[dbergol]

TB self-updated to 131

As far as I can see it on the TB homepage 131 was released for testing purposes only, see https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/131.0/releasenotes/

I wonder how an auto-update occured in that case - mainly to try to avoid the same problem on my computers....

[sabbakix]

Donated :) , thank you for your work