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I18N Names in Database, Intermezzi should be Intermezzo #35

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FlandiaYingman opened this issue Mar 27, 2022 · 5 comments
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I18N Names in Database, Intermezzi should be Intermezzo #35

FlandiaYingman opened this issue Mar 27, 2022 · 5 comments

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FlandiaYingman commented Mar 27, 2022

In https://penguin-stats.io/PenguinStats/api/v2/zones. The word "intermezzi" is the plural form of "intermezzo".

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According to https://twitter.com/ArknightsEN/status/1440647069543272450/photo/1 the official UI has been labeled as Intermezzi. Any thoughts on why it shall be Intermezzo instead?

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@GalvinGao According to Wikipedia and the Cambridge Dictionary, the word intermezzi (or intermezzo) in the game:

  • Is borrowed from the English word "intermezzi" (or "intermezzo"), which is further borrowed from Italian word "intermezzo".
  • The English word "intermezzi" is the plural form of "intermezzo"; "intermezzo" is the singular form of "intermezzi".

Assume that "Heart of Surging Flame - Side Story" means "the event 'Heart of Surging Flame' is a Side Story, then, saying "event 'Darknights Memoir' is an Intermezzi" is grammatically incorrect (saying that is like saying: "'Heart of Surging Flame' is a Side Stories").

Arknights Fandom wiki also says:

Intermezzi

Intermezzo (plural Intermezzi, which is used in-game) events have plot points and/or elements that are tied to the Main Theme, ...
(https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Event/Overview#Intermezzi)

And:

Darknights Memoir

Darknights Memoir (DM) is the fifth major event and first Intermezzo in Arknights.
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(https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Darknights_Memoir)

However, as you have said, the game does use the word "intermezzi" to categorize the major events. See the icon below:

But due to the evidence mentioned above, I am pretty sure that the game somehow misused the word. If you think we should follow the game strictly, then using "Intermezzi" is okay; or you may think we could change some expression without modifying its original meaning for better reflecting the game elements (after all, it's an i18n text, not a programmatical ID!), then using 'Intermezzo' is acceptable, too. I'm just pointing out a possible problem - the choice is yours.

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Wow thanks for the effort in the first place. imo it is sensible to just stick with what the game says, and it will be a plus if we add a small annotation/tooltip to all the occurrences of the word and declare that it was wrongly translated by the devs.

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GalvinGao commented Apr 27, 2022

@AlvISsReimu Any add-on to this? I think me and Flandia have concluded to stay with the original in-game text. If a change on using a tooltip to note such error produced by upstream is suitable, I'll open another issue for record keeping and close this one to mark the discussion as concluded :D

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Remember that we have reached consensus on 3/27 in our QQ chat, that we should use 'intermezzi', even if it is a misuse of plural. I'd say we don't make change here, and use the same word with the game itself.

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