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One can see it either way, but "let's do as the romans do" and let's talk of a new major version.
New major versions of a language that are incompatible with the previous ones are the norm outside of the Perl pound and
I have heard that implementations on different VM are often vastly incompatible.
I hope we will do better with jnthn's recent effort to decouple rakudo from the underlying VM.
I never bought the concept of multiple implementations except as exploratory projects.
Like most jnthn's and pmichaud's architectural efforts, it seems to push a real production release further in time by not addressing the
consumer side of the picture. But as everyone remotely involved in the project, you know that these architectural efforts
will eventually pay.
My point : despite Perl 6 uniquely wide ambition, we have no more reason to speak of language families than the competition
(mostly, PHP, Ruby, Python)
Well, except if we talk about slangs, a Perl 6 feature, that will allow anyone to derive his own Perl 6 from
the main language. Slangs are DSL done right.
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@cognominal: The term "the Perl family" is something that has been agreed upon and confirmed by several central people in both the Perl 5 and Perl 6 communities. This commit is in line with these statements, your comment isn't. Please move on. :-)
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FWIW, I agree with the wording change. "Perl family" was agreed upon by key players many years ago, and "next major version" is a fossil that has apparently been overlooked until this patch.
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I have a foot in both the Perl 5 and Perl 6 worlds and this seems to be the general consensus. This does not seem to be a case of "politicking" as @dagolden put it. Perl 5 and Perl 6 are different languages. They are sisters.
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One can see it either way, but "let's do as the romans do" and let's talk of a new major version.
New major versions of a language that are incompatible with the previous ones are the norm outside of the Perl pound and
I have heard that implementations on different VM are often vastly incompatible.
I hope we will do better with jnthn's recent effort to decouple rakudo from the underlying VM.
I never bought the concept of multiple implementations except as exploratory projects.
Like most jnthn's and pmichaud's architectural efforts, it seems to push a real production release further in time by not addressing the
consumer side of the picture. But as everyone remotely involved in the project, you know that these architectural efforts
will eventually pay.
My point : despite Perl 6 uniquely wide ambition, we have no more reason to speak of language families than the competition
(mostly, PHP, Ruby, Python)
Well, except if we talk about slangs, a Perl 6 feature, that will allow anyone to derive his own Perl 6 from
the main language. Slangs are DSL done right.
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Sadly, this is the sort of politicking that puts the lie to the notion that Perl 5 and Perl 6 are different languages.
You can't have it both ways, people.
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@cognominal: The term "the Perl family" is something that has been agreed upon and confirmed by several central people in both the Perl 5 and Perl 6 communities. This commit is in line with these statements, your comment isn't. Please move on. :-)
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FWIW, I agree with the wording change. "Perl family" was agreed upon by key players many years ago, and "next major version" is a fossil that has apparently been overlooked until this patch.
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I have a foot in both the Perl 5 and Perl 6 worlds and this seems to be the general consensus. This does not seem to be a case of "politicking" as @dagolden put it. Perl 5 and Perl 6 are different languages. They are sisters.