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Find 3 guides / "peers" for each functional area of the bounty system #672

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pmoorman opened this issue May 7, 2018 · 78 comments
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zz-Governance NEEDS SPONSOR guides @jimscarver, @barneycinnamon, @rayzor zz-Operations NEEDS SPONSOR guides: @TrenchFloat, @jimscarver @Tonyprisca13

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pmoorman commented May 7, 2018

One of the conclusions from the implementation of guides for the bounty system, is that we need some redundancy in the system. Ideally, each functional area (development, marketing, etc.) have 1 guide to act as the "designated driver", and two other peers to assist and help vote for issues.

The goal of this issue is to identify at least a 2nd and ideally also a 3rd guide for each functional area.

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3 guides for the following areas, synced with Labels:

Plus:

  • guides are effectively reviewing new issues (Task Identification Forms)
  • guides have sufficient trust metric weight to influence budgets and rewards

Budget: ???

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@pmoorman pmoorman added zz-Governance NEEDS SPONSOR guides @jimscarver, @barneycinnamon, @rayzor bounty-contract changes to the bounty system operating agreement; see CONTRIBUTING.md labels May 7, 2018
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pmoorman commented May 7, 2018

To start off with some suggestions:

  1. Branding should probably have Jonathan & Patrick as 2nd and 3rd guides (since the 3 of us make up the branding WG, which has the best view on all branding-related efforts)

  2. @kitblake for the member website seems obvious. (and maybe @Andrekuipers since he's the actual developer on it, so it's helpful for prioritization)

  3. @ian-bloom and myself could second for the "greeter". Maybe also @kitblake if he wants to.


Oh, and maybe I'm missing labels like "operations" and such...?

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@pmoorman.

Marketing. If there is a slot available. I will to give that a shot. Cheers.

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dckc commented May 7, 2018

I'd be happy to see Jonathan and Patrick pitch in, but I'd like to think you could farm out more of the routine work to people with less key roles in the organization. As I'm typing this, @ResonanceXX chimes in; I suggest a 20 minute call or two to sync expectations could get things going for the next little while.

Likewise, I'm not sure I want to ask Kuipers to do project managment. Ian actually asked me to help with member-site project management, and I agreed. So put me down there along with Kit.

By the way... the list belongs in https://github.com/rchain/bounties/wiki/Bounty-Task-Guides ; if we're going to keep a list here, they need to point back and forth.

p.s. the info belongs in the Labels themselves.

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dckc commented May 7, 2018

This is not a change to the bounty contract.

@dckc dckc added zz-Operations NEEDS SPONSOR guides: @TrenchFloat, @jimscarver @Tonyprisca13 and removed bounty-contract changes to the bounty system operating agreement; see CONTRIBUTING.md labels May 7, 2018
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dckc commented May 7, 2018

Oh... I guess the Labels page is another source of this info... ugh.

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dckc commented May 7, 2018

Sorting Labels by most issues, some observations:

  • Marketing has 84. Merits some combination of a small army of guides, a regular meeting for review, or subdivision into sub-areas. (e.g. social media promotion)
    • Since we have a guide for Events (@Ojimadu) , we could take Marketing off the 3 that have both labels (much like I did in the case of Translation some time ago)
  • China has 23 open issues but, as far as I know, no guide. @llerner ?

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Chuckling, because this issue is tagged Governance and Operations, but lists neither one as areas that need guides. I'll edit the initial comment to add those.

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pmoorman commented May 8, 2018

thanks all for chiming in!

  • Good point to not tie up Jonathan, Patrick and other key players if it can be avoided. For branding I would suggest @AyAyRon-P might be interested?

  • How about @TrenchFloat to complete the triplet on "operations"?

  • @barneycinnamon how about "governance"? Wouldn't you want to play a role there?

  • I'll add myself to greeter.

I'll think about how we can maybe break marketing into subsets to make it more managable.

P.S. If anyone is reading this and thinks "darn, I would like to do something but not sure which..." then please comment here or write me a note on Discord. I didn't think of @ResonanceXX for marketing for instance, but happy if he can help!

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kitblake commented May 8, 2018

You can put me on branding as well.

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David405 commented May 8, 2018

@pmoorman I would love to help out in marketing

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David405 commented May 8, 2018

@pmoorman @dckc I feel marketing be divided into sub-categories which should be based on media, region, platform. It would be make tasks surrounding marketing a little more organized.

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David405 commented May 8, 2018

Just in case the marketing position isn't available, I wouldn't mind helping out in education or governance

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ghost commented May 8, 2018

For translations I may suggest: @zero-andreou, @michaelizer, ? Are you up for it guys?

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TrenchFloat commented May 8, 2018

I'll definitely work on Operations. Putting my name in the initial comment - @pmoorman If I'm the third, who is the second?

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Hey @pmoorman you can add me to Marketing and Branding segments

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kitblake commented May 8, 2018

@TrenchFloat I was thinking of it but now I'm in 3 and that's enough. And 3.

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@ica3dar5 i'm in!!

@barneycinnamon
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Added myself to Governance and AyAyRon-P to Marketing and Branding segments

@TrenchFloat
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@kitblake I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you opting out of guiding the Ops issues?

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ghost commented May 8, 2018

@michaelizer Great!

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kitblake commented May 8, 2018

@TrenchFloat Yes, I'd prefer to take on branding instead. Sorry if that was cryptic.

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dckc commented May 8, 2018

It's great to see everybody pitching in. Something I think bears repeating:

Bounty task guides ... are here to align contributions with goals of the RChain cooperative ... -- Bounty Task Guides

For example, the budgets for Marketing issues should align with the recently approved marketing plan. I talked about this (along with Events) with @pmoorman and @PatrickM727 in 1-1 conversations, but I don't think we shared it explicitly with everybody else.

I make an effort to talk with Medha and others about how which development tasks should be high priority.

For Education, I'm encouraging @TrenchFloat to sync up with @KellyatPyrofex, who is involved in a lot of documentation stuff.

@barneycinnamon and I lamented that it's challenging to figure out where to go for Governance priorities for the coop as a whole. We're brainstorming on how to interface with the board of directors. (I suppose I'm on the executive committee ...)

For Operations, @lapin7 is right here; likewise, member-site and greeter have large overlap with the bounty program already.

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dckc commented Jun 1, 2018

@barneycinnamon to support rhobot.glitch.me, vote for rewards on #609 .

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dckc commented Jun 1, 2018

@TrenchFloat you said you're struggling to keep up with Operations and that @jimscarver nominated @entropee , but you haven't managed to contact him. @jimscarver suggested the next peer learning meeting, Monday Jun 4 at 4pm ET (5pm CT) might be a good place to catch him.

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kitblake commented Jun 3, 2018

I did some label cleanup including slight rename conventioning of the labels:

  • Functional areas (Development, Marketing, etc., which have guides) are capitalized.
  • Other labels (e.g. meeting, french, wontfix, etc.) are lowercase.

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dckc commented Jun 4, 2018

@David405 asked about the basis for my reward votes on this issue. I think they're unremarkable so far, but I haven't finished (my votes only add up to 65% so far).

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ghost commented Jun 5, 2018

I am removing myself as a lead guide. I am proposing @zero-andreou and @michaelizer to continue the work.

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kitblake commented Jun 6, 2018

@ICA3DaR5 Donald, sorry to see go. Are you feeling a bit burned?
Bad joke, I know. But guide burnout is a problem we've anticipated, and haven't found an answer yet.

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ghost commented Jun 6, 2018

@kitblake No, I am not burned, I am taking a break for personal reasons. @zero-andreou and @michaelizer are very capable people and I trust them 100% to do great work. I might get back on the task once I feel like it.

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ghost commented Jun 6, 2018

Okay, so me, @zero-andreou and @michaelizer had a conversation on the translation guides.

We decided that @michaelizer is the best choice for a Lead Guide, and myself and @zero-andreou will follow along as guides. Is that okay?

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allancto commented Jun 6, 2018

@michaelizer welcome!

@pmoorman @kitblake @michaelizer @zero-andreou @ICA3DaR5 @zsluedem and others, @kennyrowe has suggested that translation may no longer be as high a priority for our Cooperative as it was in the past (comment in #755). I happen to agree with that, perhaps with a small difference: i would say that "value added translation" may add considerable value- where translation is combined with other efforts such as study or original thinking, analysis, presenting local or regional viewpoints on important discussions. In any case this is an important theme for Guides in the translation label, @michaelizer if you're going to be the lead I suggest you organize one or more meetings to discuss in more detail, and I will introduce you at today's RAM meeting if you're available and hopefully get some of the discussion started. Thanks!

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dckc commented Jun 6, 2018

Regardless of your role going forward, @ICA3DaR5 , thanks for your contributions so far!

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pmoorman commented Jun 6, 2018

@allancto let's spin the comment above (about the need for translation/localisation/regionalisation) into it's own issue.

I have my thoughts on that, as do many others, but I don't think this is the right place to discuss it!

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zsluedem commented Jun 7, 2018

@allancto agree with low priority for translations.Start another issue to discuss it. I remember it seems there was some discussion before.Let me check.

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allancto commented Jun 7, 2018

@pmoorman @zsluedem @Viraculous @David405 yes, I agree with what you all have been saying. As we ourselves become more knowledgeable and experienced, we should be "upping our game". We should be not rest on our laurels, we should be able to add new kinds of value to the work we've been doing. How can we make what we do always more productive? Better tools for doing it? New initiatives? Research into what our Cooperative requirements are? Continuously improving our own skills?

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BelovedAquila commented Jul 5, 2018

@pmoorman I have an interest to assist in guiding Education,Meeting and Events

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ghost commented Jul 22, 2018

I am stepping down on the Translation label as a guide. I think it would benefit the co-op for the guides to rotate. I hope my work here as a guide helped both the co-op and the community. I am pretty sure other people can do the work, especially now that the heavy workload has already been done.

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zero-andreou commented Jul 22, 2018

I will also be following on @ica3dar5's steps. I will have to focus on other work, therefore I won't have the time to properly work as a guide.

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I am interested in becoming a guide in the translation label . I am familiar with the workflow of the the translation guides and I am up for it.

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qelentium commented Jul 22, 2018

Im interested in becoming a translation guide too, if its still on

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ghost commented Jul 22, 2018

After chatting with @zero-andreou and @pavlos1851 I think he has the technical knowledge of being a guide on the Translation label. Would like @michaelizer's and @AyAyRon-P input!

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dckc commented Jul 22, 2018

@qelentium you (and everybody else) are more than welcome to do some guiding at any time. You would need a trust rating to affect budgets and rewards though. Recall last time you asked me about that, I asked how your work reviewing the arch doc (#580) is going :)

I see @AyAyRon-P is listed in the label description. @ICA3DaR5 did you put that there? Has he agreed to guide translation? If not, please add "nominated" or some such.

p.s. I wonder if it's better to discuss Translation guide rotation in #483.

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ghost commented Jul 23, 2018

@dckc Yes, after chatting with @AyAyRon-P he did agree. He is very trustworthy IMO.

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There was an opportunity to talk through the needs and expectaitons with @ICA3DaR5 of the translation label guides when reviewing some marketing material and I'm glad to now be part of the translation label guides. I think it's better to keep the translation issues with translation #483 as @dckc suggested.

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I removed @michaelizer from the Translation label as a guide as per his request.

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Thank you @zero-andreou

@pavlos1851 I've added you on discord to create our Translation Label Guide Chat - is this you?
pavlos1851#6292

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