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[v2.1.1 Bug] - Mohawk can Not lift a Ural, but a Huey/Orca can #11

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The-Euphoria opened this issue Sep 7, 2016 · 22 comments
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Hello, I've just updated to version 2.1.1 released this morning, and I noticed that the Mohawk can not lift a Ural, but a much small helicopter like the Huey and Orca 'can' lift a Ural.
This seems a little strange as the Mohawk is 2-3x the size of Huey.

Any idea on how I could fix this please???
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@The-Euphoria The-Euphoria changed the title v2.1.1 - Mohawk can not lift a Ural, but a Huey/Orca can [v2.1.1 Bug] - Mohawk can Not lift a Ural, but a Huey/Orca can Sep 7, 2016
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sethduda commented Sep 7, 2016

Do you know how to run scripting commands in the editor?

Can you tell me the mass of the vehicle and the lift capability of the
helis?

Here's how to get the ural mass:

systemChat str (getMass NAME_OF_URAL);

Here's how to get the heli lift capability:

systemChat str ([NAME_OF_HELI] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);

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Hello, I've just updated to version 2.1.1 released this morning, and I
noticed that the Mohawk can not lift a Ural, but a much small helicopter
like the Huey and Orca 'can' lift a Ural.
This seems a little strange as the Mohawk is 2-3x the size of Huey.

Any idea on how I could fix this please???
Thank you


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I'm sorry I don't know how to run script commands, I'm very new to modding ARMA/Exile servers so I'm learning the basics at the moment.
I'll have a look online and see if I can work out what you mean and how to do it.

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sethduda commented Sep 7, 2016

Do you know how to use the editor to place the vehicles and name them?

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I'm sorry I don't know how to run script commands, I'm very new to modding
ARMA/Exile servers so I'm learning the basics at the moment.
I'll have a look online and see if I can work out what you mean and how to
do it.


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No again, sorry 😞 I'm very very new to this. I'm trying to learn now how to run those scripts commands you posted, but if you can offer me any advice or guide on what to do, that would really help.

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sethduda commented Sep 7, 2016

Ok, open up the in-game editor. Then on the right hand side, you'll see a
list of units/vehicles/etc. Find the vehicles you want, and drag them onto
the map. Hold Ctrl down before you release your mouse button to create a
empty vehicle (otherwise it will be populated with AI).

Once you have the vehicles placed, do the same thing for a unit (this will
be the player).

Then, press play on the bottom right of the screen.

If that works, press escape and return to the editor. Then, double click on
the vehicles, and give them names (e.g. V1, V2... etc).

Then, press play again.

Then, press escape, and paste the following code into the code dialog (but
change NAME_OF_URAL to the name you gave the vehicle in the editor):

systemChat str (getMass NAME_OF_URAL);

Then, press exec local, and press escape to close the dialog window. You
should then see a number appear on the bottom left of your screen. That's
the mass of the vehicle.

Do the same thing for the helicopters, but use this command:

systemChat str ([NAME_OF_HELI] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);

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No again, sorry 😞 I'm very very new to this. I'm trying to learn now how
to run those scripts commands you posted, but if you can offer me any
advice or guide on what to do, that would really help.


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Thank you, I'm trying that now.

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The-Euphoria commented Sep 7, 2016

Thank you, some of that that worked.
This is the Ural truck that can not be lifted by the large (Mohawk) Heli (Mass = "8699.97" - Ural)

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The-Euphoria commented Sep 7, 2016

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Ok, I have tried 5 or 6 times to run this script for the Heli. I renamed the heli "H1", I tried a few different helicopters renaming them H1, H2, H3... etc.. I ran "systemChat str ([H1] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);" but no numbers appeared on screen.

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sethduda commented Sep 7, 2016

Make sure you have the advanced sling loading addon enabled before you
start arma.

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Ok, I have tried 5 or 6 times to run this script for the Heli. I renamed
the heli "H1", I tried a few different helicopters renaming them H1, H2,
H3... etc.. I ran "systemChat str ([H1] call ASL_Rope_Get_Lift_Capability);"
but no numbers appeared on screen.


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Oh ok, sorry as I said I'm very new to this. How do I make sure I have the advanced sling loading addon enabled??? If I join the server it works, but only for Admins, not normal players. is that something to do with it???

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sethduda commented Sep 8, 2016

Subscribe to the addon in steam, and then choose the addon in the Arma
launcher before starting the game.

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Oh ok, sorry as I said I'm very new to this. How do I make sure I have the
advanced sling loading addon enabled??? If I join the server it works, but
only for Admins, not normal players. is that something to do with it???


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Ok trying that now.

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Ok sorry about that. These are the results:

Ural Truck - Mass = "8699.97"
Large Mohawk Heli - Lift Capability = "4000" <<<< This is the one that can Not lift it
Small Huey Heli - Lift Capability = "2000" <<<< This is one of a few heli's that Can lift it

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sethduda commented Sep 8, 2016

No people don't need it installed. If admins only have the option, it's
likely a configuration issue with infistar. Are you the owner of the server?

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P.S. Sorry one other quick question - Does every player on my server have
to install this mod on Steam and in the Arma launcher to be able to use it
on the server??? Is that why it only works for admins at the moment??


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Yes I am.

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Oh! Also I have this info for you:

Another heli called the "Orca" has the same "2000" lift cap as the "Huey", but the Orca cannot lift the Ural truck, yet the Huey can lift it 😕

Also, the tiny heli: "MH-9 Hummingbird" has a lift cap of only "500" but it can lift vehicles with a mass of 2000!

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sethduda commented Sep 8, 2016

To fix the admin issue, you need to configure infistar settings. Set both
of these to false:

KCM = false;

CMC = false;

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Oh! Also I have this info for you:

Another heli called the "Orca" has the same "2000" lift cap as the "Huey",
but the Orca cannot lift the Ural truck, yet the Huey can lift it 😕

Also, the tiny heli: "MH-9 Hummingbird" has a lift cap of only "500" but
it can lift vehicles with a mass of 2000!


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Thank you, I'll try that now.

Very strange regarding the lifting issues with some heli's, what do you think the cause is??

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sethduda commented Sep 8, 2016

Likely something configured incorrectly with the Huey. Can you tell me it's
class name? Run this to get it:

systemChat str (typeOf HELI_NAME);

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Thank you, I'll try that now.

Very strange regarding the lifting issues with some heli's, what do you
think the cause is??


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Exile_Chopper_Huey_Green
Exile_Chopper_Huey_Desert
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Exile_Chopper_Huey_Armed_Desert

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sethduda commented Sep 8, 2016

Oh ok, so these are all exile vehicles. Very likely something is just
misconfigured with the helis. Unfortunately this is likely an issue that I
won't be able to fix. Maybe you could raise the issue with exile
developers. From what I can tell, it's a problem with the heli config and
not the sling load script.

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Ok, I understand. I'll message the Exile devs and let them know.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help but also to explain everything to me, I really appreciate that as I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

Thanks again and I will definitely tell everyone about your mods, because they really are awesome and made the game so much better 👍

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