Place Talon and Python files side-by-side #897

wenkokke · 2022-06-23T23:13:22Z

Opening this pull request to have a working example for discussion about #669.

My attempt with this restructuring is to only focus on renaming files, to ease future merges.

I've not updated any of the imports or file paths, as I mostly intend for this to fuel discussion.

My rationale for organizing is:

apps: concrete commands for an application
core: concrete commands and actions that are always available and any other code can depend on
lang: concrete commands for a programming language
tags: concrete commands with some abstract actions, activated with a tag
plugins: a self-contained set of commands not linked to any application or programming language but whose actions probably should not be depended upon

My aim with grouping each pair of Python and Talon files in their own subdirectory is (1) to make it extremely clear which files belong together, and (2) to encourage some modularisation. As a bonus, these subdirectories can contain a README.md, which can really help someone browsing the repository on GitHub.

…XXX_YYY.py'.

wenkokke · 2022-06-24T14:07:52Z

The pull request creates a temporary directory, core/misc, which contains code that either should be pried apart...

tags.py creates a list of tags which should be inlined into their respective files
application_matches.py creates a list of application matches which should be inlined into their respective files

...or contains general actions, which it very least could do with some documentation as to where they are used...

delayed_speech_off.py defines delayed_speech_on and delayed_speech_off
engine.py defines an alias for speech_system.engine_mimic as well as shortcuts for "go to sleep" and "wake up"
system_command.py defines aliases for os.system and subprocess.Popen

wenkokke · 2022-06-24T14:10:45Z

Further changes, that should perhaps be made in a separate pull request, would be to pry apart the implementations of the built in Talon name spaces windows and tabs, which are deeply intertwined with each other as well as with window snapping.

wenkokke · 2022-06-24T14:29:00Z

One further change that should be considered for this pull request is to flatten...

apps/platforms/PLATFORM/APP/APP.{py,talon}

...to simply...

apps/APP/APP_PLATFORM.{py,talon}

It makes sense to want to separate out apps that are a core part of an OS, such as Windows Explorer or Nautilus, and these apps should perhaps be tagged with their OS.
However, a lot of the apps in these folders could run on different systems, but simply don't have a Talon implementation for other systems, e.g., tmux or keepassx.
Furthermore, a lot of the apps at the top level are portable but do not implement support for all OSes, e.g., eclipse.

It honestly might make more sense to group some apps by the main tag they implement, e.g., apps/browser, apps/editor, apps/file_manager, apps/terminal, apps/reader, etc.

rntz · 2022-07-11T12:07:37Z

After looking at this in more detail, I mostly like it but have quibbles with how nested some things are and the organization of things in core/. Things I'd like changed:

This isn't something you've introduced, but I'd like to reduce nesting in apps/platforms/PLATFORM/APP/ by, as you suggest, flattening to just apps/APP/. We already did this (by accident?) with apps/windbg/. We may need to rename some apps with overly generic names, eg apps/platforms/mac/notes -> apps/apple_notes. I don't think we particularly need to group apps by their main tag or function.
Flatten core/app_switcher/app_names/ into core/app_switcher/.
core/history/ combines the command and phrase histories; do these really belong together? I think the phrase history either belongs on its own or with formatters.
I'd prefer if all subdirectories of core/modes/ were removed and it was entirely flat.
In particular, core/modes/dictation_mode/dictation_mode.py (formerly code/dictation.py) isn't really the implementation of dictation-mode. It implements (a) the various text captures (<user.word>, <user.text>, <user.prose>); (b) prose auto-formatting; (c) context-sensitive dictation. It should be renamed; maybe text_and_dictation.py? Other suggestions welcome.

Arguably vocabulary.py, formatters.{py,talon}, and text_and_dictation.py belong together; they're the "text input module". The phrase history either belongs in this module or it could be its own. vocabulary.talon and the corresponding functions in vocabulary.py could perhaps be split off into their own module.

The most extreme and simple approach to these "where do things in core belong" difficulties is to completely flatten core/**/ into core/, regarding it as just one big pile of stuff. How would you feel about that?

wenkokke · 2022-07-12T14:06:27Z

I think that I agree with all of the changes that you've suggested, though for this pull request I believe we should stick as much as possible to renaming files, and not editing their content, for ease of future merges.

Would you be happy to make the changes that you have suggested and push them to this branch?

…_dictation.py

rntz · 2022-07-20T22:34:49Z

Okay, I've updated the branch with my suggested changes. feel free to suggest further renames/reorgs, not confident every choice is the best it could be.

Along the way, I noticed the core/plugin distinction is a bit unclear. Supposedly plugins aren't to be depended on, but mouse_grid defines a tag used in core/numbers/numbers.talon. (And in future we might want talon_draft_window to depend on draft_editor, I think?) And lots of stuff in core/ is self-contained and not depended on by anything else: talon_helpers, text_navigation, macro, the command history, repeater.talon...

We could either:

Keep as-is, maybe there's some reason I'm not seeing.
Collapse the distinction. What should we call the remaining directory? core? misc? modules? code?
Treat lots more stuff as plugins -- anything not depended on by something else, and that doesn't define actions, captures, tags, etc intended for use outside of itself. I've made a branch with this additional change applied: https://github.com/knausj85/knausj_talon/tree/more-plugins (comparison with this PR: https://github.com/wenkokke/knausj_talon/compare/issue669...knausj85:knausj_talon:more-plugins?expand=1)

wenkokke · 2022-07-21T13:18:43Z

Treat lots more stuff as plugins -- anything not depended on by something else, and that doesn't define actions, captures, tags, etc intended for use outside of itself. I've made a branch with this additional change applied: https://github.com/knausj85/knausj_talon/tree/more-plugins (comparison with this PR: https://github.com/wenkokke/knausj_talon/compare/issue669...knausj85:knausj_talon:more-plugins?expand=1)

That seems like the way to go! I didn't notice these :)

rntz · 2022-07-21T20:00:21Z

ok, I've made more things plugins (and also made mouse_grid not a plugin since numbers depends on it)

rntz · 2022-07-21T20:02:18Z

Checklist:

Merge/rebase on main to fix merge conflict.
Get the test suite working.
Run talon with this config and test it.
Get other maintainers to sign off on this major reorg.
Figure out what's up with the deleted files.

rntz · 2022-07-27T22:08:14Z

This PR appears to just plain delete some files:

eye_tracking_settings.py
settings.talon
shared_settings_module.py

What's up with that? as I see it:

settings.talon we definitely want to keep.
shared_settings_module.py defines a setting that is used in the mouse_grid, so maybe it belongs there rather than deleted.
eye_tracking_settings.py was entirely commented out. I'm not sure what its purpose is, but it might be important for folks with eye trackers?

rntz · 2022-07-30T14:31:33Z

We had a big discussion about this on the knausj maintenance meeting today. Everyone is on board with the general direction, we did some bikeshedding about how things should be organized. Changes:

Apps which are platform-specific (eg Finder, Apple Notes) don't get a platform suffix on their .talon or .py file names.
We flattened apps/web/* into apps/. Some apps (eg outlook, in principle github) have both desktop and web versions, we're going to group those together as one directory.
We flattened core/misc/ into core/, as well as core/app_running/app_running.py because people felt it didn't need a directory all to itself.

rntz · 2022-07-30T14:34:54Z

Some changes we'll want to investigate post-merge (or pre-merge on main): a bunch of apps are probably overly platform-specific:

apps/signal/signal_linux: probably works on both linux and windows
apps/taskwarrior/taskwarrior_linux: should work anywhere taskwarrior tag is used
apps/keepassx/keepassx_linux.talon: probably linux+windows?
apps/termite/termite_linux.talon: probably linux-specific but has no 'os: linux' header
apps/tmux/tmux.talon: lose the 'os: linux'

wenkokke · 2022-07-30T16:12:51Z

Apps which are platform-specific (eg Finder, Apple Notes) don't get a platform suffix on their .talon or .py file names.

One thing to discuss might be how to deal with platform specific apps with very generic names, e.g., Apple vs Gnome vs Windows Terminal, or more generally apps which have non-unique names.

pokey · 2022-09-14T12:09:11Z

Ok I made an attempt to restore the deleted files in 6e5e705

I tried running this PR locally, and got the following errors:

2022-09-14 13:03:35 ERROR user.knausj_talon.core.create_spoken_forms (/Users/pokey/.talon/user/knausj_talon/core/create_spoken_forms.py) import failed
   13:                    lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   12:                    lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   11:                    lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
   10:                       app/resources/loader.py:894| 
    9:                       app/resources/loader.py:830| 
    8:                       app/resources/loader.py:648| 
    7:                       app/resources/loader.py:684| 
    6:                       app/resources/loader.py:738| 
    5:                       app/resources/loader.py:432| # [stack splice]
    4:           lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py:127| 
    3:                       app/resources/loader.py:253| 
    2:                       app/resources/loader.py:248| 
    1: user/knausj_talon/core/create_spoken_forms.py:9  | from .abbreviate import abbreviations
ImportError: cannot import name 'abbreviations' from 'user.knausj_talon.core.abbreviate' (unknown location)

2022-09-14 13:03:35 ERROR user.knausj_talon.core.file_extension.file_extension (/Users/pokey/.talon/user/knausj_talon/core/file_extension/file_extension.py) import failed
   14:                              lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   13:                              lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   12:                              lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
   11:                                 app/resources/loader.py:894| 
   10:                                 app/resources/loader.py:830| 
    9:                                 app/resources/loader.py:648| 
    8:                                 app/resources/loader.py:684| 
    7:                                 app/resources/loader.py:738| 
    6:                                 app/resources/loader.py:432| # [stack splice]
    5:                     lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py:127| 
    4:                                 app/resources/loader.py:253| 
    3:                                 app/resources/loader.py:248| 
    2: user/knausj_talon/core/file_extension/file_extension.py:3  | from .user_settings import get_list_fr..
    1:                                 app/resources/loader.py:366| 
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'user.knausj_talon.core.file_extension.user_settings'

2022-09-14 13:03:35 ERROR user.knausj_talon.core.vocabulary.vocabulary (/Users/pokey/.talon/user/knausj_talon/core/vocabulary/vocabulary.py) import failed
   14:                      lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   13:                      lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   12:                      lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
   11:                         app/resources/loader.py:894| 
   10:                         app/resources/loader.py:830| 
    9:                         app/resources/loader.py:648| 
    8:                         app/resources/loader.py:684| 
    7:                         app/resources/loader.py:738| 
    6:                         app/resources/loader.py:432| # [stack splice]
    5:             lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py:127| 
    4:                         app/resources/loader.py:253| 
    3:                         app/resources/loader.py:248| 
    2: user/knausj_talon/core/vocabulary/vocabulary.py:8  | from .user_settings import append_to_c..
    1:                         app/resources/loader.py:366| 
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'user.knausj_talon.core.vocabulary.user_settings'

2022-09-14 13:03:35 ERROR user.knausj_talon.core.websites_and_search_engines.websites_and_search_engines (/Users/pokey/.talon/user/knausj_talon/core/websites_and_search_engines/websites_and_search_engines.py) import failed
   14:                                                        lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   13:                                                        lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   12:                                                        lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
   11:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:894| 
   10:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:830| 
    9:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:648| 
    8:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:684| 
    7:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:738| 
    6:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:432| # [stack splice]
    5:                                               lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py:127| 
    4:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:253| 
    3:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:248| 
    2: user/knausj_talon/core/websites_and_search_engines/websites_and_search_engines.py:6  | from .user_settings import get_list_fr..
    1:                                                           app/resources/loader.py:366| 
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'user.knausj_talon.core.websites_and_search_engines.user_settings'

2022-09-14 13:03:39 ERROR cb error topic="ready" cb=on_ready
   13:                          lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   12:                          lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   11:                          lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
   10:                             app/resources/loader.py:894| 
    9:                             app/resources/loader.py:844| 
    8: -------------------------------------------------------# [stack splice]
    7:                         talon/scripting/dispatch.py:134| # 'ready' user.knausj_talon.core.app_switcher.app_switcher:on_ready()
    6: user/knausj_talon/core/app_switcher/app_switcher.py:356| update_overrides(None, None)
    5: user/knausj_talon/core/app_switcher/app_switcher.py:226| update_running_list()
    4: user/knausj_talon/core/app_switcher/app_switcher.py:192| running = actions.user.create_spoken_f..
    3:                          talon/scripting/actions.py:62 | 
    2:                          talon/scripting/actions.py:156| 
    1:                          talon/scripting/actions.py:152| 
KeyError: "Action 'user.create_spoken_forms_from_list' is not declared."

2022-09-14 13:03:39 ERROR cb error topic="ready" cb=on_ready
   12:            lib/python3.9/threading.py:937* # loader thread
   11:            lib/python3.9/threading.py:980* 
   10:            lib/python3.9/threading.py:917* 
    9:               app/resources/loader.py:894| 
    8:               app/resources/loader.py:844| 
    7: -----------------------------------------# [stack splice]
    6:           talon/scripting/dispatch.py:134| # 'ready' user.knausj_talon.lang.talon.talon:on_ready()
    5: user/knausj_talon/lang/talon/talon.py:69 | on_update_decls(registry.decls)
    4: user/knausj_talon/lang/talon/talon.py:59 | ] = actions.user.create_spoken_forms_f..
    3:            talon/scripting/actions.py:62 | 
    2:            talon/scripting/actions.py:156| 
    1:            talon/scripting/actions.py:152| 
KeyError: "Action 'user.create_spoken_forms_from_list' is not declared."

wenkokke · 2022-09-14T21:43:44Z

I never updated any imports, as the PR was originally only intended to get the idea across. I’ll have a look at that now.

core/settings.talon

rntz · 2022-09-18T14:39:08Z

Possibly, but that seems outside the scope of this PR; I'd rather just leave it in the root directory for now.

pokey

Ok I think this PR is good to go. I did some basic testing, but it's prob worth a couple people taking it for a spin before we merge, given the surface area that it touches (ie every file 😅)

rntz · 2022-09-27T19:54:36Z

I think it's probably worth us maintainers dogfooding this for a week before merging it into main, just to see if any unexpected issues crop up. I'll start this weekend or sooner.

pokey · 2022-09-28T05:50:27Z

I think it's probably worth us maintainers dogfooding this for a week before merging it into main, just to see if any unexpected issues crop up. I'll start this weekend or sooner.

Are you comfortable enough with stock knausj to use as a daily driver? Or were you planning to merge into your branch and dog food it that way? Tbh I don't know stock knausj well enough to comfortably use it for more than quick tests

rntz · 2022-09-28T08:35:06Z

I meant merge it into our branches. That's what anyone with significant modifications is going to have to do after all.

pokey · 2022-09-28T14:10:46Z

Fair enough. I don't think I can force-push to this branch, so I made a new branch with everything squashed for ease of merge: place-talon-and-python-files-side-by-side-squashed

pokey · 2022-09-28T18:13:26Z

Ok just merged my personal branch with the squashed commit for this PR in place-talon-and-python-files-side-by-side-squashed; was a little more painful than I was hoping, because I guess I've added / removed a couple files, but not tooo terrible. So far so good in terms of my Talon not breaking; will report back if anything seems odd over the next few days. Also confirmed that on my branch nothing unexpected was deleted; all just renames

Fwiw my personal merge is in https://github.com/pokey/pokey_talon/tree/place-talon-and-python-files-side-by-side. Waiting for this PR to merge before I put a merge commit on my main

Addresses #994 and spruces up a few places where the readme has gotten out of date.

Addresses talonhub#994 and spruces up a few places where the readme has gotten out of date.

Opening this pull request to have a working example for discussion about talonhub#669. My attempt with this restructuring is to *only* focus on renaming files, to ease future merges. I've not updated any of the imports or file paths, as I mostly intend for this to fuel discussion. My rationale for organizing is: - `apps`: concrete commands for an application - `core`: concrete commands and actions that are always available and any other code can depend on - `lang`: concrete commands for a programming language - `tags`: concrete commands with some abstract actions, activated with a tag - `plugins`: a self-contained set of commands not linked to any application or programming language but whose actions probably should not be depended upon My aim with grouping each pair of Python and Talon files in their own subdirectory is (1) to make it extremely clear which files belong together, and (2) to encourage some modularisation. As a bonus, these subdirectories can contain a `README.md`, which can really help someone browsing the repository on GitHub. Co-authored-by: Michael Arntzenius <daekharel@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Pokey Rule <755842+pokey@users.noreply.github.com>

Addresses talonhub#994 and spruces up a few places where the readme has gotten out of date.

Opening this pull request to have a working example for discussion about talonhub#669. My attempt with this restructuring is to *only* focus on renaming files, to ease future merges. I've not updated any of the imports or file paths, as I mostly intend for this to fuel discussion. My rationale for organizing is: - `apps`: concrete commands for an application - `core`: concrete commands and actions that are always available and any other code can depend on - `lang`: concrete commands for a programming language - `tags`: concrete commands with some abstract actions, activated with a tag - `plugins`: a self-contained set of commands not linked to any application or programming language but whose actions probably should not be depended upon My aim with grouping each pair of Python and Talon files in their own subdirectory is (1) to make it extremely clear which files belong together, and (2) to encourage some modularisation. As a bonus, these subdirectories can contain a `README.md`, which can really help someone browsing the repository on GitHub. Co-authored-by: Michael Arntzenius <daekharel@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Pokey Rule <755842+pokey@users.noreply.github.com>

Addresses talonhub#994 and spruces up a few places where the readme has gotten out of date.

Opening this pull request to have a working example for discussion about talonhub#669. My attempt with this restructuring is to *only* focus on renaming files, to ease future merges. I've not updated any of the imports or file paths, as I mostly intend for this to fuel discussion. My rationale for organizing is: - `apps`: concrete commands for an application - `core`: concrete commands and actions that are always available and any other code can depend on - `lang`: concrete commands for a programming language - `tags`: concrete commands with some abstract actions, activated with a tag - `plugins`: a self-contained set of commands not linked to any application or programming language but whose actions probably should not be depended upon My aim with grouping each pair of Python and Talon files in their own subdirectory is (1) to make it extremely clear which files belong together, and (2) to encourage some modularisation. As a bonus, these subdirectories can contain a `README.md`, which can really help someone browsing the repository on GitHub. Co-authored-by: Michael Arntzenius <daekharel@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Pokey Rule <755842+pokey@users.noreply.github.com>

Addresses talonhub#994 and spruces up a few places where the readme has gotten out of date.

Get started with a basic restructuring.

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Create temporary 'core/misc', flatten 'XXX/platforms/YYY.py' to 'XXX/…

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flatten apps/platforms/PLATFORM/APP into apps/APP

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flatten core/app_switcher/app_names/ into core/app_switcher/

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rename apps which are platform-specific to not include platform name

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