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No "Best of 3" for "Mean of 3" events #109

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SAuroux opened this issue Dec 10, 2013 · 3 comments
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No "Best of 3" for "Mean of 3" events #109

SAuroux opened this issue Dec 10, 2013 · 3 comments

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@SAuroux
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SAuroux commented Dec 10, 2013

Proposal

No "Best of 3" for "Mean of 3" events
https://github.com/cubing/wca-documents/compare/no-best-of-3-for-mean-of-3

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  • It doesn't seem to be desirable that an event from 9b2 is held with 3 attempts and rated with "Best of 3", when "Mean of 3" is possible and the preferred format.

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none.

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lgarron commented Dec 10, 2013

Arguably, the option could be useful. Could you get data on how often events have been held in each format in the last few years?

If few competitions have used "Best of 3" for a "Mean of 3" event, I think this change should be pretty uncontroversial.

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SAuroux commented Dec 10, 2013

As long as we clearly state "Mean of 3" as preferred format for these events, it is kind of contradictory that we allow "Best of 3" to be used.

There have never been such occurences for 6x6x6 or 7x7x7 so far. These are all occurences:

year eventId COUNT(distinct Results.competitionId)
2005 333ft 1
2006 333ft 2
2007 333ft 1
2008 333ft 2
2010 333ft 2
2012 333ft 4
2013 333ft 3

SELECT Competitions.year, Results.eventId, COUNT(distinct Results.competitionId)
FROM Results INNER JOIN Competitions ON Results.competitionId=Competitions.id
WHERE (eventId="666" OR eventId="777" OR eventId="333ft") AND formatId="3"
GROUP BY Competitions.year, eventId

As a note, one should remember that "Best of 3" has been the preferred format for 3x3x3 with feet until 2013.

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lgarron commented Dec 10, 2013

SELECT Competitions.year, Results.eventId, COUNT(distinct Results.competitionId)
FROM Results INNER JOIN Competitions ON Results.competitionId=Competitions.id
WHERE (eventId="666" OR eventId="777" OR eventId="333ft") AND (formatId="m" OR formatId="3")
GROUP BY Competitions.year, eventId, formatId;
+------+---------+---------------------------------------+
| year | eventId | COUNT(distinct Results.competitionId) |
+------+---------+---------------------------------------+
| ...  | ...     |                                   ... |
| 2012 | 333ft   |                                     4 |
| 2012 | 333ft   |                                    80 |
| 2012 | 666     |                                   114 |
| 2012 | 777     |                                    99 |
| 2013 | 333ft   |                                     3 |
| 2013 | 333ft   |                                   103 |
| 2013 | 666     |                                   134 |
| 2013 | 777     |                                   139 |
+------+---------+---------------------------------------+

That's only 3 out of 106 competitions: CastellonOpen2013 (3 feet competitors), ColombiaTercer2013 (5 feet competitors), and RybnikOpen2013 (5 feet competitors).

I think this counts as uncontroversial.

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Required a merge to make compatible with topic #109 (no best of 3 for mean of 3 events).
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