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Since some style attributes are permitted in Image profile, permit #initial #36

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nigelmegitt opened this issue Jul 13, 2018 · 3 comments
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@nigelmegitt
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There are style attributes that are permitted in Image Profile, such as tts:backgroundColor, tts:display, tts:luminanceGain etc. so it makes sense to permit #initial in Image Profile for ease of styling, and symmetry with Text Profile.

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I am not aware of Image profile use cases that cannot be fulfilled without initial, and not aware of Image profile users that have requested that feature.

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OK but it's weirdly inconsistent. If we think initial is useful for Text Profile, why would it not be useful for Image Profile?

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The Working Group just discussed Since some style attributes are permitted in Image profile, permit `#initial` imsc-vnext-reqs#36, and agreed to the following:

  • SUMMARY: No immediate requirement to `#initial` has been identified, closing with no action until such a requirement is raised.
The full IRC log of that discussion <nigel> Topic: Since some style attributes are permitted in Image profile, permit `#initial` imsc-vnext-reqs#36
<nigel> github: https://github.com//issues/36
<nigel> Nigel: I think we're out of time to do anything about this in IMSC 1.1. We didn't action
<nigel> .. this in the CR2 transition request.
<nigel> Pierre: No, and the idea really is to modify the Image profile as little as possible, if at all.
<nigel> .. I've not heard folk being unsatisfied with Image Profile. Users of the Text Profile were
<nigel> .. quite vocal with strong opinions, but I've not seen any documented feedback on the
<nigel> .. Image Profile so my philosophy is not to modify it without anyone expressing that opinion.
<atai2> +1
<nigel> .. Same applies to position.
<nigel> Glenn: Did you add the new image element?
<nigel> Pierre: Yes, and deprecated smpte:backgroundImage.
<nigel> Nigel: I take your point, though it does seem inconsistent.
<nigel> Glenn: How about tts:showBackground? Everyone seems to want to change that.
<nigel> Pierre: If you're using an image you'd typically use a transparent background.
<nigel> .. Basically I've seen a lot of full raster images for Image Profile.
<nigel> .. What we can do about this is either close it as "won't do" (for now), or just leave it
<nigel> .. open and mark for v.next. I think I'd rather just close it.
<nigel> Pierre: Here the question is if someone cares. If nobody cares we should close it. I don't care!
<nigel> Nigel: I don't have any plan to use Image Profile for anything, so it makes no difference to
<nigel> .. me in usage.
<nigel> Pierre: My suggestion would be to close it.
<nigel> SUMMARY: No immediate requirement to `#initial` has been identified, closing with no action until such a requirement is raised.

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