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Remove ttp:mediaDuration. #18

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nigelmegitt opened this issue Jan 10, 2018 · 5 comments
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Remove ttp:mediaDuration. #18

nigelmegitt opened this issue Jan 10, 2018 · 5 comments
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@nigelmegitt
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Alongside the removal of mediaDuration in #323 we need to remove mediaDuration as discussed at TPAC 2017. The indefinite end time can be resolved using clipBegin (or its renamed equivalent) instead as per #483.

@skynavga skynavga changed the title Remove mediaDuration Remove ttp:mediaDuration. Jan 10, 2018
@skynavga skynavga changed the title Remove ttp:mediaDuration. Remove ttp:mediaDuration. Jan 10, 2018
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If we do not add clip{Begin,End} then we still need a way to to resolve overall indefinite duration on document time line, which argues for retaining ttp:mediaDuration. Note that TTT [1] uses a command line option, --external-duration, to provide this information at present (in the absence of a ttp:mediaDuration parameter or equivalent).

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The desired duration can remain indefinite by the processing model, leaving the task of determining the effective duration to the document processing context.

imscJS, for instance, outputs an ISD with an end time of infinity in the case of indefinite duration.

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The Working Group just discussed Remove ttp:mediaDuration. ttml2#549, and agreed to the following resolutions:

  • RESOLUTION: Remove ttp:mediaDuration
The full IRC log of that discussion <nigel> Topic: Remove ttp:mediaDuration. ttml2#549
<nigel> github: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/549
<nigel> Glenn: If the processor does not know what duration to use then indefinite durations could
<nigel> .. not be resolved to a finite interval. I see the comment that ISD can now have an indefinite
<nigel> .. end time. I'm willing to go with removal at this point.
<nigel> RESOLUTION: Remove ttp:mediaDuration

@skynavga skynavga self-assigned this Jan 10, 2018
skynavga referenced this issue in w3c/ttml2 Jan 21, 2018
Remove ttp:mediaDuration (#549). Since we have a WG resolution to proceed on this, and since nobody is proposing to keep ttp:mediaDuration, I am merging this early to facilitate closing #76. If someone wishes to object to the WG resolution https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/549#issuecomment-356695431, feel free to reopen #549 with specific comments.
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Since we have a WG resolution to proceed on this, and since nobody is proposing to keep ttp:mediaDuration, I have merged the approved PR early to facilitate closing #76. If someone wishes to object to the WG resolution #549 (comment), feel free to reopen #549 with specific comments.

@skynavga skynavga removed their assignment Jan 21, 2018
@skynavga skynavga reopened this Aug 30, 2018
@skynavga skynavga transferred this issue from w3c/ttml2 Feb 1, 2019
@skynavga skynavga added this to the 1ED-FPWD milestone Feb 1, 2019
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Closing this issue with no further action since ttp:mediaDuration has already been removed (w3c/ttml2@a40894c).

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