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New table 5-02-04: Measurement/observing method (outer space) #143
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Perhaps ti is also useful to refer to the current list of variables for outer space (code table 1-01-04): |
Reached out to Murray Parkinson, Space Weather at Bureau of Meteorology. |
Comment by Larisa Trichtchenko (IPT-SWeISS, Lead Task Team Systems): |
Comment by Larisa Trichtchenko (IPT-SWeISS, Lead Task Team Systems): If my opinion would count, it would be much shorter and more precise and useful if instead of method description the reference to the description of the mission instrument is provided, either published paper, report, website, or else. At least for space weather variables, we will try this more comprehensive approach. |
The idea of the methods table is to name the main physico-chemical principle behind an observation/measurement. Sometimes, if this is too complex, or a conventional term ('radiosonde') is used in the community, then indeed an instrument type can stand in as a proxy. In your ACE example, would something like 'energy-dispersive particle counting' cover it? |
Reply Larisa: No, it would not be correct. Particle counting does not give meters per second or degrees Kelvin. I could refer to the appropriate textbook, if needed (we have it in the course named ” thermodynamics and statistical physics”). Additional questions Larisa: Now I am more puzzled for what purpose one should spent so much time and creativity (i.e. to find out “proxy” terms), if methods (i.e. “main physics-chemical principles”) are either presented in textbooks or by the specialists in the reports, published papers or on-line descriptions. Who will be the reader and how this incomplete and, to some extent, misleading information will be used r? Question Werner: should this be all somehow be described in and linked to the WMO CIMO Guide, where the methods of observation should be clearly defined and described? |
SW_Requirements_Instruments and Methods_LT.xlsx If this is what is requested, then I will appreciate it very much if you could provide me with the official wordings of the purpose of this task. . Some official wording would really help me to solicit the group involvement (SW group are volunteers, including myself, this is why we, perhaps, need some more motivation J). |
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In OSCAR/Surface, the methods are a key element in the definition of a deployment. A deployment is effectively a period of operation of an instrument, and an instrument operates based on a method. Organizing methods in a code table is unfortunately not trivial, but the terms should be rather short, with a more extensive description if needed. I like a term such as 'electromagnetic induction' or 'proton precession'. A term like 'Passage of ionized particles produce detectable changes in electrical circuits' is a sentence and not a method. |
Could you, please, help me to find a reference in OSCAR Surface which cite this first line of your statement. Period of operation of the instrument depends on many things, such as (in primitive thinking), capability to sustain environment, the quality of communication (data feed) links, etc. I do not understand how the lifetime of the instrument (period of deployment) can depend on the method...Perhaps "electrostatic discharge" would be a good term for you, although not quite covering the whole range of particle detectors. If you would like to organise "methods" into code table, then these are not methods, but the types of instruments. For magnetometers it would be fluxgate and PPM. There are several general types of particle detectors. Several types of ionosondes etc. If this, latter, is the task, then it is manageable and makes sense. |
@LarisaTrichtchenko Sorry for the late response ... It may be more efficient to have a chat over the phone, but maybe this helps:
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Based on our discussion, most likely the "method" is the most popular type of instrument (in terms of the measurement technique) used for a given data collection, Such as "ionosonde", or "radiosonde", for example. I will try to fulfill this task with the help of the group. Thanks. Larisa |
@amilan17 - find appropriate WMO contact |
sent email to Ken Holmund. |
The measurement/observing method for space weather observations are still missing at this point. It would be nice to collect suggestions from the community here.
Examples from other communities can be found here:
https://github.com/wmo-im/wmds/blob/master/tables_en/5-02-01.csv (atmosphere)
https://github.com/wmo-im/wmds/blob/master/tables_en/5-02-05.csv (terrestrial)
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