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Feature Request - drop table ctabundance #7691

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dustymc opened this issue Apr 19, 2024 · 8 comments
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Feature Request - drop table ctabundance #7691

dustymc opened this issue Apr 19, 2024 · 8 comments
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Enhancement I think this would make Arctos even awesomer! Priority - Wildfire Potential ignore this at everyone's peril, may smolder for now ...

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dustymc commented Apr 19, 2024

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

Abundance is an uncontrolled attribute. I think perhaps the code table is a failed experiment?

Describe what you're trying to accomplish

Clean

Describe the solution you'd like

Drop the table.

Describe alternatives you've considered

Use the table.

Additional context

Some of these data are probably lost, #6179 is related.

Priority

Critical, I'll drop the code table unless someone has a use for it.

Data

temp_abundance.csv.zip

Usage


  collection  | numrecs 
--------------+---------
 UAM:Herb     | 480|
 KNWRObs:Herb | 30|
 UTEP:Herp    | 25|
 UTEP:Inv     | 7|
 MVZ:Bird     | 1|
 UWZM:Bird    | 78|
 UTEPObs:Herp | 1|
 MVZObs:Bird  | 564|
 DMNS:Bird    | 1|
 UAM:Ento     | 1|
 APSU:Herp    | 1|
 UTEP:Herb    | 125|
 UTEP:Ento    | 262|
 MSB:Herp     | 5|


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ccicero commented Apr 19, 2024

@dustymc I'm a bit confused. We have ctabundance which is controlled, but the data you provide look like it's coming from 'abundance' in ctattribute_type - ??? I checked some of the MVZ records and those are from ctattribute_type = 'abundance'

So we have two ways of saying the same thing. I'm ok with dropping ctabundance but we need to keep abundance as a record attribute type.

Can you send a CSV of values that use ctabundance?

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dustymc commented Apr 19, 2024

@ccicero you got it, two things here:

  1. A free-text attribute, https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctattribute_type#abundance and
  2. A code table with a suspiciously similar name which, as far as I can see, isn't doing anything at all - https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctabundance

I'm not proposing doing anything with the attribute.

I am proposing either

  1. getting rid of the code table if nobody has a use for it, or
  2. wiring it in wherever it should be if someone has a reason to do that

Data are in the original comment.

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ccicero commented Apr 19, 2024

@dustymc The data in original comment looks like it's coming from ctattribute_type#abundance - no? The column is ATTRIBUTE_TYPE = 'abundance' and the values are not controlled, so what are the records with data from ctabundance? That's unclear to me.

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dustymc commented Apr 19, 2024

records with data from ctabundance

As far as I know there are none.

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ccicero commented Apr 19, 2024

Hmmm, ok. Then I vote for getting rid of ctabundance and just keeping ctattribute_type#abundance.

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dustymc commented Apr 19, 2024

not even sure what that number is

Bare integers aren't the most ridiculous things in these data! #6179 - I am increasingly convinced that we wildly underestimate the costs of simply having lots of THINGS (eg some poor overwhelmed student puts A-thing into Z-container and it's lost).

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