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link the new web site to http://openmath.org #30

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kohlhase opened this issue Jul 21, 2017 · 21 comments
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link the new web site to http://openmath.org #30

kohlhase opened this issue Jul 21, 2017 · 21 comments
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The OM BM decided to make the new web site at openmath.github.io the official one.
This now needs to be put into effect. There are some things to do

  • announce that the old web site is obsolete and maybe redirect to
  • change the DNS (James can do this I think)
  • do the CNAME magic on github,
  • I am sure there must be more to this
    We may have to set up some travis stuff to run the indexer automatically.
    I am assigning to all people who may be involved with some steps of this.
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davidcarlisle commented Jul 21, 2017 •
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Mostly this has to be done at the DNS provider end see the docs at

https://help.github.com/articles/using-a-custom-domain-with-github-pages/

I can (probably) fiddle with the github settings if I have DNS information

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tkw1536 commented Jul 21, 2017

Configuring the hosting should be rather simple. @davidcarlisle is right, most of it has to be done with the DNS provider.

change the DNS

  1. Setup two A records for openmath.org, pointing to 192.30.252.153 and 192.30.252.154 respectively.
  2. (Optional, but nice) Setup a CNAME record for www.openmath.org to point to openmath.org

do the CNAME magic on github

This part is simple, just do echo "openmath.org" > CNAME and commit & push.

I am sure there must be more to this

The one thing I can think of is the mailman web interface currently configured to run under http://openmath.org/mailman/admin/om3. This should probably be moved (maybe to a separate domain like mailman.openmath.org). @jwknopper Do you know the setup?

We may have to set up some travis stuff to run the indexer automatically.

Do we need an indexer? If so how is it currently run (is there documentation)? There also is jekyll-sitemap which generates sitemap.xml, that might be sufficient.

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using mailman.openmath.org would be a better option than the current setup (and HTTPS/SSL would be nice; but not critical, since I use an SSH tunnel myself); As soon as mailman.openmath.org exists I can set that up.

at the moment openmath.org keeps /mailman /pipermail /icons /images/mailman (should keep /cgi-bin as well) and sends the rest on to www.openmath.org. For HTTPS the current situation is a bit ugly since I am still using strict host checking with a certificate for a different host so am also keeping /svn/repos for mathdox.org.

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So what is the status of this, can we just do the switchover now? The new site is much much better (more correct, more complete) than the old one.

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kohlhase commented Aug 25, 2017 •
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At least we need to add a note to the old page that points to the new one!
A great big warning sign!
@jwknopper could you please do that directly.

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jwknopper commented Aug 28, 2017 •
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yes, this can be done by changing the frontpage at https://github.com/OpenMath/OMSVN/blob/master/www/frontpage.xml

I'll see if I can do this tonight. Feel free to do this earlier.

Who is the person to create mailman.openmath.org and let it point to 131.155.0.177, possibly with ssl ?
I can then change the mailman config and when that is done, the openmath website can be moved completely.

Note: current IP is 131.155.0.167, but that machine will be retired soon.

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yes, this can be done by changing the frontpage at https://github.com/OpenMath/OMSVN/blob/master/www/frontpage.xml

I'll see if I can do this tonight. Feel free to do this earlier.

Great, please do.

Who is the person to create mailman.openmath.org and let it point to 131.155.0.177, possibly with ssl ?

@JamesHDavenport I think.

I can then change the mailman config and when that is done, the openmath website can be moved completely.

Note: current IP is 131.155.0.167, but that machine will be retired soon.

What happens then? Do you have a follow-up machine?

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131.155.0.177 is our newest server, I'll proxy to the original machine and later to the machine (or hopefully container) which will have the migrated lists.

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OK.

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A warning is now in place at https://openmath.org (frontpage). Also the news refers to the new news location.

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JamesHDavenport commented Aug 28, 2017 via email

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@JamesHDavenport we should consider giving Jan Willem or Tom admin access to the DNS.

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JamesHDavenport commented Aug 29, 2017 via email

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JamesHDavenport commented Aug 29, 2017 via email

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James,
if doing the admin at spirit domains is a hassle, we should consider moving the domain to joker.com (I do my domains there) where I know what to do.

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That may be simpler in the end than forcing you to understand all the peculiarities.

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As far as I know the DNS is at cloudflare. All access to the website is filtered and buffered through there. The SSL certificate we have is also a cloudflare certificate. I think Paul set this up in 2013.

openmath.org mail is handled by 10 mx2.tue.nl.
openmath.org mail is handled by 10 mx1.tue.nl.
openmath.org has IPv6 address 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:a54
openmath.org has IPv6 address 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:b54
openmath.org has address 104.28.11.84
openmath.org has address 104.28.10.84
openmath.org name server hank.ns.cloudflare.com.
openmath.org name server ruth.ns.cloudflare.com.

Notes:

  • www.openmath.org has same addresses as openmath.org
  • mail by mx1.tue.nl and mx2.tue.nl makes sense, because most mail servers at TU/e are not allowed direct access to the web. Also the TU/e servers provide a buffer this way.
  • SSL certificate is from Cloudflare and protects the connection till cloudflare. I have a self-signed certificate at the site running the website (but currently not for openmath.org or www.openmath.org).

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JamesHDavenport commented Aug 29, 2017 via email

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I think if we want to transfer

and we might do it, either now if necessary, or when the next renewal comes up (Feb?).

I think doing the transfer while we do not have to worry about renewal is probably best, the only downside is that we may have to pay double. But I guess it might streamline the web site switching process.

@JamesHDavenport You can find what is involved at https://joker.com/faq/content/7/69/en/how-to-transfer-a-domain-to-jokercom.html
Basically, James has to "unlock the domain" (sometimes) and request an AUTH-ID. Then I can do the rest.

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Should we try the transfer soon? After mid-October I will be busy with the new semester.

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