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YouTube+ / Particle current direction is a mess, here is the final plan for the future of this extension #504

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ParticleCore opened this Issue May 12, 2017 · 20 comments

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ParticleCore commented May 12, 2017

For those of you that haven't been following the events around YT+ lately, the extension was placed on EOL support due to the new YouTube layout being drastically different than the classic layout - demanding a complete rework of the extension - and my limited time to spare for working on the extension. On top of that the extension was also banned from the Chrome webstore with no reason given, a situation which led me to move the extension to Opera and drop Chrome once the new extension version is finalized.

Fortunately I was able to finally find a way to work around the complexity that is the new YouTube layout and I am currently working from scratch on a new and modular version of the extension just for the new layout, but this will still be a slow process.

Unfortunately, with all of this happening in such a short period of time a mess was generated. Because the Opera add-on store did not accept the YouTube name in the extension I had to change it to Particle, but I was planning on using that name for the new version of the extension and now I have this name collision on the Opera side if I try to keep the same name for a different version. Another issue that has raised is the repository itself, it is called Particle as well, but it is being used for the YouTube Plus name.

You see now the mess that this is heading into and I have decided to re think the plan while I am still on an early stage of development for the new extension.

I have finally made a decision and the new extension version will be called Iridium and it will be located in the respective repository located here: https://github.com/ParticleCore/Iridium

As of today the entire development of this version will be done on that repository and this one (Particle) will remain as it is for the YouTube Plus version. This way I am able to keep everything organized and avoid development collision regarding wikis, issues and other unforeseen problems that could occur due to the way things were now.

I apologize for this mess that I have done, but hopefully it will just be a stepping stone that was prevented from becoming an avalanche of problems.

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Don't worry, the name is not that important. Google screwed us twice, first with the layout changes and now with the extension ban. Chrome is doing things that would make IE6 jealous.

ps: the developer from YouTubeCenter started a project to deal with the new material layout

Don't worry, the name is not that important. Google screwed us twice, first with the layout changes and now with the extension ban. Chrome is doing things that would make IE6 jealous.

ps: the developer from YouTubeCenter started a project to deal with the new material layout

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rEnr3n May 23, 2017

The name reminds me of this browser which is based on Chromium. https://iridiumbrowser.de/
Want to change the name one more time to avoid confusion?

rEnr3n commented May 23, 2017

The name reminds me of this browser which is based on Chromium. https://iridiumbrowser.de/
Want to change the name one more time to avoid confusion?

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@rEnr3n If that were an extension then I would consider change name again, but I checked and I did not find any with this name. A browser is not the same thing as an extension, the name will stay.

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ParticleCore commented May 23, 2017

@rEnr3n If that were an extension then I would consider change name again, but I checked and I did not find any with this name. A browser is not the same thing as an extension, the name will stay.

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Corruptinglyneedful Jun 27, 2017

So wait does that mean Youtube Plus is no longer getting updates and is just going to be static and if I want a more updated version I have to go to Iridium?

So wait does that mean Youtube Plus is no longer getting updates and is just going to be static and if I want a more updated version I have to go to Iridium?

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@Corruptinglyneedful YT+ will only end when the new layout is officially released. Until that day arrives any bugs and problems with YT+ will be resolved as quick as possible like always, that part never changed.

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ParticleCore commented Jun 27, 2017

@Corruptinglyneedful YT+ will only end when the new layout is officially released. Until that day arrives any bugs and problems with YT+ will be resolved as quick as possible like always, that part never changed.

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Corruptinglyneedful Jun 27, 2017

OK, thank you Mr. Particle, sir.

OK, thank you Mr. Particle, sir.

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link6155 Aug 4, 2017

I'm not going to switch browsers just for one extension. I can understand your frustration with the Chrome Web Store but I think it is ill-advised to switch to Opera, a browser that has privacy concerns, a much smaller user base, and relies heavily on Chromium still.

link6155 commented Aug 4, 2017

I'm not going to switch browsers just for one extension. I can understand your frustration with the Chrome Web Store but I think it is ill-advised to switch to Opera, a browser that has privacy concerns, a much smaller user base, and relies heavily on Chromium still.

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@link6155 I will not, I am going to keep support for FF and Chrome only for Iridium.

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ParticleCore commented Aug 4, 2017

@link6155 I will not, I am going to keep support for FF and Chrome only for Iridium.

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Corruptinglyneedful Aug 4, 2017

There's also Userscripts people. Those support everything. It's not all about browser extensions.

Well w/e you support, please for the love of God put in an option to hide notification numbers in tabs.

They are truly madening.

There's also Userscripts people. Those support everything. It's not all about browser extensions.

Well w/e you support, please for the love of God put in an option to hide notification numbers in tabs.

They are truly madening.

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Hi,

My comment is unrelated to this announcement but to what happened with chrome extension in particular to the discussion https://github.com/ParticleCore/Particle/issues/528.

I just wanted to let you know that the work you have done with Particle is great and you are morally as well as practically completely right to make money from it. The only thing that could have been done otherwise is making an announcement beforehand that the extension is changing ownership. I have read about it and will not go into discussing that.

I do not understand why people expect that they should get software for free and on their own terms. It takes time, money and in some case health to develop skills at your competence level and then applying them to come up with something as useful as Particle. I am sure most of the commenters in that thread who disagreed with or tried to disparage you will continue using Particle in one form or another.

s0j0urn commented Aug 27, 2017

Hi,

My comment is unrelated to this announcement but to what happened with chrome extension in particular to the discussion https://github.com/ParticleCore/Particle/issues/528.

I just wanted to let you know that the work you have done with Particle is great and you are morally as well as practically completely right to make money from it. The only thing that could have been done otherwise is making an announcement beforehand that the extension is changing ownership. I have read about it and will not go into discussing that.

I do not understand why people expect that they should get software for free and on their own terms. It takes time, money and in some case health to develop skills at your competence level and then applying them to come up with something as useful as Particle. I am sure most of the commenters in that thread who disagreed with or tried to disparage you will continue using Particle in one form or another.

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Corruptinglyneedful Aug 27, 2017

What's your point though?

What's your point though?

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That he has done good work. I am thankful.
People may not understand how S/W development works and can be ungrateful.

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That he has done good work. I am thankful.
People may not understand how S/W development works and can be ungrateful.

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Corruptinglyneedful Aug 29, 2017

Yup, autoplay blocking not working for me either. Currently looking for alternative since this has been deprecated

Yup, autoplay blocking not working for me either. Currently looking for alternative since this has been deprecated

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Do not post unrelated issues here, open in a new one instead and this extension has not been deprecated until the Material layout can no longer be disabled.

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ParticleCore commented Aug 29, 2017

Do not post unrelated issues here, open in a new one instead and this extension has not been deprecated until the Material layout can no longer be disabled.

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Corruptinglyneedful Aug 29, 2017

Hey, @ParticleCore how do you actually disable the new material layout if you get it?

Hey, @ParticleCore how do you actually disable the new material layout if you get it?

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@bel57 Everything is already explained in the first post.

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ParticleCore commented Aug 30, 2017

@bel57 Everything is already explained in the first post.

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Youtube New #572

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sergeevabc Sep 27, 2017

There is “Get me Old Youtube” userscript which switches New design to Old one (as long as available).

sergeevabc commented Sep 27, 2017

There is “Get me Old Youtube” userscript which switches New design to Old one (as long as available).

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Closing due to #609

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ParticleCore commented Nov 1, 2017

Closing due to #609

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