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SIS sensitivity #3
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I should point out that not all the stocks on our list - even assessed stocks - are in RAM. Regarding "given that we're using RAM as "assessed"...", is the assessed yes/no classification not based on the 'year of first assessment' variable, with 'no' = ['Only relative indices' | 'Minimal information' | 'No published document']? Or am I forgetting and it is based on whether or not the stock is in RAM? If it's the former, then this analysis doesn't draw at all from the RAM database so it doesn't even need mentioning in the Methods. I now realize that my previous idea of a sensitivity analysis might not work unless we want to assign those level 0-5 classifications ourselves to the stocks in our dataset that are not managed or assessed by NOAA (i.e. are not in SIS). It looks like we have 24 assessed stocks in our dataset (with a year of first assessment value) that do not appear in the SIS dataset. Here is the breakdown of SIS assessment levels for assessed stocks in our dataset (ones with a 'year of first assessment value') that are also in SIS: I think three of the '1's are for stocks that previously had population models used but now rely on survey indices (silver hake, winter flounder). We've also been a bit flexible with assessment definitions for invertebrates (the other two '1's and the two '2's). I don't really see anything super special about the category 5 stocks (Atlantic herring - Northwestern Atlantic Coast; Butterfish - Gulf of Maine / Cape Hatteras; Red grouper - Gulf of Mexico; Gag - Gulf of Mexico; Arrowtooth flounder - Bering Sea / Aleutian Islands; Flathead sole - Bering Sea / Aleutian Islands; Yellowfin sole - Bering Sea / Aleutian Islands), they could easily be pooled with 4. Mike Levels of Stock Assessment Models |
Yes, that's what I used; RAM (or not) doesn't really figure. If its easy enough to assign the SIS variables to non-NOAA stocks, I guess it could be worth doing this kind of sensitivity. The main question is if we can get a first year of assessment for each category - e.g., stocks may have been assessed as category 3 at some early stage, and then later used a category 4 model? At that point, we'd want to have the cat. 3 first assessment date for a cat 3&up analysis, but the cat 4 date for a cat. 4&5 analysis? Does that make sense? |
Yeah that sounds hard! My vote is to not get stuck on any but the simplest On Oct 25, 2016 12:46 PM, "Philipp Neubauer" notifications@github.com
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yes; just had a quick chat to Mike - seems that using the SIS definitions On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Jim Thorson notifications@github.com
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I believe this is addressed qulitatively in the discussion and can be closed |
From Mike:
Just to throw out the idea - there could be the potential for a sensitivity analysis using "level of assessment" as defined in SIS. This ranges from 1-5 and represents complexity of the assessment. We could later repeat the analysis to consider only level 5 as assessed, or only levels 4-5, or only levels 3-5 (assessed stocks as we've currently defined can fall within level 2).
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