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Correlation between simulated and actual data #2

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Rohan2821999 opened this issue Aug 22, 2016 · 21 comments
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Rohan2821999 opened this issue Aug 22, 2016 · 21 comments

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@Rohan2821999
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@cbattista Below is the graph for the correlation between actual easiness vals and simulated vals over all the points. Looks pretty bad :(

fig

Here is what weber fraction, m, intercept values I have used for the ages :

if (18 >= age_grade >= 15):
            Child = Person(0.16,-16,650)
elif(14 >= age_grade >= 11 ):
            Child = Person(0.22,-25,750)
elif(10 >= age_grade >= 8):
            Child = Person(0.25,-30,900)
elif(age_grade == 7):
            Child = Person(0.27,-32,1000)
# where age_grade is the age of the person
@Rohan2821999
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And the Pearson Coefficient Matrix is

[[ 1. 0       0.01059]
[0.01059       1.0]]

So the correlation is almost 0

@cbattista
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Well it looks like it works pretty well (top right cluster) for some and
not for others (the rest of it).

So now, we can think about why that would be...firstly, I realized I didn't
pull out the 'practice' trials out of the data so that might have something
to do with it...so that's one thing. But it's kind of interesting to see
that there seem to be 'categories' there...

So one thing we want to ask is, do we have 'types' of people, where it fits
for some and not for others? Or, is it just a huge mess?

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@cbattista https://github.com/cbattista Below is the graph for the
correlation between actual easiness vals and simulated vals over all the
points. Looks pretty bad :(

[image: fig]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/13100688/17869396/f7749f1e-6867-11e6-8dc5-234b8a2e0472.JPG

Here is what weber fraction, m, intercept values I have used for the ages
:

if (18 >= age_grade >= 15):
Child = Person(0.16,-16,650)
elif(14 >= age_grade >= 11 ):
Child = Person(0.22,-25,750)
elif(10 >= age_grade >= 8):
Child = Person(0.25,-30,900)
elif(age_grade == 7):
Child = Person(0.27,-32,1000)

where age_grade is the age of the person


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@Rohan2821999
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Checked that.. all the 4 clusters exist and are quite prominent in all 'types' of people. So the clusters are not independent to 'categories' or 'types' of people.

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Ok, good to know. So now let me see about removing all those practice
trials...

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Checked that.. all the 4 clusters exist and are quite prominent in all
'types' of people. So the clusters are not independent to 'categories' or
'types' of people.


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NDE Graph of Simulated Easiness Values vs Actual Easiness Values for all correct trials:

image

Following slope and intercept values were used for different age ranges:

Age 15-18: slope = -16, intercept = 750
Age 11-14: slope = -30, intercept = 950
Age 10-8: slope = -40, intercept = 1200
Age 7: slope = -50, intercept = 1500

@cbattista
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Hmm quite a blob we have there...

A few questions:

Can you just plot RTs (instead of easiness)
Can you color code the different age ranges - curious to see whether data
fits better for any of the age ranges...
What's up with the 'stripe' pattern in the simulated data?

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NDE Graph of Simulated Easiness Values vs Actual Easiness Values for all
correct trials:

[image: image]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/13100688/17910744/1a26f598-693f-11e6-91bb-8468097d3cc3.png

Following slope and intercept values were used for different age ranges:

Age 15-18: slope = -16, intercept = 750
Age 11-14: slope = -30, intercept = 950
Age 10-8: slope = -40, intercept = 1200
Age 7: slope = -50, intercept = 1500


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Sure,So you want a graph of the Simulated RT's vs Actual RT's color coded according to ages, right? Or do you want a graph of simulated RT's vs distance (color coded)?

Not surely about the stripe pattern, would look into it..

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Yes, simulated RTs vs actual RTs color coded according to ages.
for example...
Age 15-18: black
Age 11-14: blue
Age 10-8: green
Age 7: red

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Sure,So you want a graph of the Simulated RT's vs Actual RT's color coded
according to ages, right? Or do you want a graph of simulated RT's vs
distance (color coded)?

Not surely about the stripe pattern, would look into it..


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Here is the graph:

image

Age 15-18: red
Age 11-14: blue
Age 8-10: green
Age 7: brown

@cbattista
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So for the 7 year-olds there might be a bit of a (weak) relationship there but the rest is indeed quite bad....definitely need a better model!

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I have added two graphs (Actual RT vs Ratios and Sim_RT vs Ratios) ::: Red - Acc = 0 , Green - Acc = 1

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neat - can you make the circles more transparent (using the 'alpha'
argument in the scatter function) it will make things easier to see...

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I have added two graphs (Actual RT vs Ratios and Sim_RT vs Ratios) ::: Red

  • Acc = 0 , Green - Acc = 1

[image: image]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/13100688/17986581/3f310210-6ad0-11e6-9cb9-5a3b419f2f64.png

[image: image]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/13100688/17986660/a8d7f642-6ad0-11e6-884a-fcff50518b10.png


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Graph of Avg_RT Values (Actual) vs Avg Accuracy values for each subject:

image

Doesn't quite look as expected..

@Rohan2821999
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Plot of Simulated RT (sampled from normal distribution with std = intercept) vs Ratios. The plot more or less matches the Actual RT vs Ratio scatter plot..

image

Should I re-plot my easiness values graph now (probably could get better results)?

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yeah, let's try that...

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Plot of Simulated RT (sampled from normal distribution with std =
intercept) vs Ratios. The plot more or less matches the Actual RT vs Ratio
scatter plot..

[image: image]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/13100688/18017584/f821bf92-6b86-11e6-9461-10ebbd3949c2.png

Should I re-plot my easiness values graph now (probably could get better
results)?


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RT Histogram Chart

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Histogram Plot for Simulated and Actual E

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for w = 0.17

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Kinda weird still overestimating difficulty a bit at a pretty low w..

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huh, I guess it's the NDE driving the RT there then...

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Kinda weird still overestimating difficulty a bit at a pretty low w..


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