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Hello, great work with all this hacks, reworks and restoring cut content, thank you a lot. Can we have back in game Kaminarimon(I heard that it was a old name for Thunderballmon) and\or WereGarurumon? From what I learned, they both are in game code, ready to use, but dont have own models that was added in Card Battle. |
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Kaminarimon (which may or may not be related to Thunderballmon) has absolutely no data other than the name in that unused evolution item. The item has no ID set, so I literally have no idea what it was suppossed to be, but the partner slots are full and there was never any slot for that digimon in the released game. While it is true that Weregarurumon have SOME data that can be used, a lot of it is incomplete and/or missing, it is not ready to be used at all. It does not have a finisher (Glacial Blast is not only broken, it is just a copy of Mail Storme). The models from Card Battle would need to be reworked to make them compatible with World 1 and even with that, then the animations would need to be created from scratch... |
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I see. Sorry to hear that. |
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actually Kaminarimon is not thunderballmon, rumors say it would be this one: |
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Hey! I didn't see a text file to follow for evolution, where should I be looking for that? |
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The txt README already explains how to get the new evolutions if you downloaded the RAR. |
I am referring to just the normal |
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No, the Vice hack never changed any evolution requirements except for Gabumon -> Panjyamon in exchange of Gabumon -> Ogremon in the versions before 2.0 or with the "restore Panjyamon" patch. |
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Hi Vice, It's possible to add more maps to the game? I've been working on some special maps variations for some of the new events/zones on your patch, like the new boss battles at the spore area or the events before the weregarurumon battle. I would like to share my progress with you but first I wanted to ask if it is possible to add maps that are not in the vanilla game |
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It is possible... but it would require quite a bit of work... |
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Oh I see... It's ok bro, you did an excelent work and made our dreams come true with that playable weregarurumon!! Anyways, I will leave to you what what I did in case that some day in the future you back to work on DW1 and if you like my idea you could add it on a future patch. Thank you for your efforts to improve the game! Hope you could check the files and the .txt with a explicaction of my ideas! :D |
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I'll reply to each of the points:
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Apologize for being off-topic: just wanted to comment that your maps are fantastic. |
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Como faço para entrar no discord? percebi que vocês mapearam boa parte do código do digimon world então vou fazer um programa que lê o código mapeado para que seja mais simples de fazer modificações no jogo e outras pessoas consigam fazer mods para esse jogo de forma simples sem entender de HxH. |
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If the translator is not wrong... you are looking for the digimon modding community discord link? SydMontague has it on its Github, in the contact part of the DSCSTools repository. |
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is it possible to change setting mid game? the tech boost i got from spit fire fells kinda too strong in the early game so i wanted to remove it or increase the dificulty but dont want to start a new save. the idea is good but i fell like the boost is too big to justify using anyother techs once you learn the boosted one |
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Yes, you can patch it again and use the exact same save. Just make sure you use a clean ROM when you're patching. |
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Hello, I've seen what you done with Poyomon being able to say which evolution your digimon is going to turn into. I was thinking if it was possible for Poyomon (or some other NPC) to also tell you how much time your digimon has until they evolve and, in case of Champions, how much time they still have to live if you don't evolve them. |
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It is possible... but I would need to find room for both the code and the dialogue... Which would be very complicated. I cannot increase the Poyomon dialogue anymore as of now. |
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It would be interesting to replace the title screen with this image from the physical Japanese game cover. I have a friend who is an experienced illustrator, who says he could restore and repurpose this image to create a nice title screen for the game. If you are interested let me know and I will have my friend restore the image to suit your needs. |
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I would rather not do that, I'm pretty sure that actually can cause a copyright issue later on... It would also need to be in a format the game can handle... Which luckily is only TIM and not one of the other formats the game has... |
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What limitations do we have for modding? I.e. when can copyright be an issue? What is allowed and what is not allowed? |
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It is more about sharing those, you cannot share images/videos that are consedered a property without having any issues... it is fine if you change/add stuff that is your own work. |
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It would be interesting to have your hack, when you start the game, give you the option to select the language. And you can have your hack in Spanish, English, Japanese, or as many languages as possible. That would bring the game community together, having a single game for everyone, multilingual. |
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That would require a huge amount of work, it is not possible to add another language to the USA version as of now... It just lacks characters and it doesn't have any room for more. This is a visual representation of the full font: |
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Is it Possible for German? because german use the same characters. |
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The USA version can be translated to German (and I'm sure it would lack characters)... But the patch cannot be moved to the PAL version, the USA and each PAL versions are, in code terms, very different games. This is the font for the PAL versions: I would need to start basically from 0 to do it for the German PAL (which is also a language I don't speak...) and that would only work for the German PAL and none of the other PAL. |
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Ah Okay. Im really new to play with modding roms |
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What I'm saying there is:
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Would it be possible to move the clock a bit more towards the top corner? Also, remove the happiness and discipline bars. Then, create a new HUD that includes absolutely all the alterable values in the game, such as fatigue, happiness, discipline, errors, etc., etc. To make the HUD appear on the screen, you press a button, and all the values are displayed. Then, you press that same button again, and the HUD becomes invisible. |
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That would require new images, a lot of new code and a new font... since the current font is too big to even make that possible. You also can see all of that data by just opening the stats screen as of now, it may be better since it also pauses time... rather than wasting some of the lifespan just to try to read what's on the screen. I'm also not sure what's the idea behind the food image... Is it the energy or something like that? |
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I can deliver new high-quality pixel art icons and a new font with the necessary size. You can always have those values displayed on the screen, and if at any point they bother you, you can press a button to hide them. It's true that you added battles, errors, and fatigue, but values like remaining life hours are very important, and you didn't include them. The time left until going to sleep is also interesting, as well as a value that tells you when your Digimon will need to go to the bathroom. Additionally, food is energy, so knowing when your Digimon will need to eat again can help you anticipate whether a mushroom will be enough or if you should give more food. Displaying this value will help you better manage weight. This approach is designed with the general public in mind. I understand that for experienced players or speedrunners, the approach might be different, but this modding is aimed at making the gaming experience more accessible for the general audience. |
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I'm going to be honest here: |
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hi im majinwolf. Are you planning to add a marker that indicates how many hours your digimon has left to live? It would also be good if you added another marker that indicates how much time your digimon has left to evolve. |
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No, I'm not planning to add those. |
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I also thought it would be interesting when the player reaches a certain tamer level. to add some things like a non-perishable portable potty, that is, one that appears in the menu, just like the fishing rod does and when the digimon wants to go to the bathroom, press the portable potty icon and the digimon defecates. the bathroom, that would make that improve discipline and happiness, but nevertheless so that the conventional batteries do not become obsolete, it will make them increase happiness and double the discipline of the portable potty. I would also make it so that when the player increases his tamer level, he gets more money, and with another tamer level increase, the digimon would drop more money (it would eliminate the infinite money bug of mojyamon). In short, it makes better use of the tamer level mechanics so that the player feels an incentive to want to improve it. |
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in your changelog.
can yo say what itens you changed? Another question, did you add any specific items to reduce the lifespan or reset it? |
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Late reply, but check the spreadsheet: |
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I see, the lifespan reset is with any steak or only with the one sell at vending machine at Dragon Eye Lake? maybe i misinterpreted, should be an item that increased lifespan, killing the digimon... i tested the digimon can eat the golden acorn, can u make this change? |
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It only works with the "helpful items" patch, otherwise is just a normal steak. I don't understant the second question, but if you're asking for a way to have infinite lifespan, digisieabass/ chain melon and the "better raise" patch is a way. |
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now i understand, the steak killed my digimon making a digitama... thats what i wanted, i wast thinking this ill reset his live to age 0 ^_^ there is a room to make de gold acorn another useful item, since the digimon can eat it anytime🤔 ill be back with some feedback about the other useful items... thank you for you awesome job!! |
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The Golden Acorns are just food, just like the Steak but with less room for custom code... |
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Ok, my question is something that I have tried hacking before but with no success: Is it possible to hack the game and let Angemon learns "Thuder Justice"? I'm not asking you to make a patch, but if you can help me telling what are the offsets I need to change, I would be really happy. He is my favorite Digimon, but I don't like to play with him because I hate most of his attacks. Devimon, on the other size (my second favorite) has two of my favorite attacks wich are TJ and Ice Statue. |
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The wiki has a little explanation and a tutorial to do that stuff... but it only works with the USA version. It already has Thunder Justice in the hack. |
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Oh tahnk you, you're my hero! |
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using the "real MetalGreymon patch" only dont apply in the arena lobby MetalGreymon
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Because that is a different MetalGreymon model, it only applies to the playable one... I even changed its name, so it is a bit different... |
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the change is "MetalGreymon?" ? I found strange because i faced him in the arena with the right colors... u cant swap this model colors? |
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The real MetalGreymon is not just a "color swap", it also has changes in the model. I just don't want to change all three models in the game. The arena uses the playable models, not the NPC ones. |
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about the usefull itens patch... 1 - Digipine, why not put it to sell in the gym i only found seeling in shogungekomon? show details...
2 - Still talking about Digipine, the efects of the item is lasting forever (even when my digimon become digitama)... in my test the only way too stop the buff is eating another training item, i dont have tested other training itens yet to see if have the same problem... 3 - Still talking about Digipine and other items, why not make a better description about some itens like: Digipine - Boosts ALL training effects. (i have way more suggestions, if u want i cant list all...) 4 - Gekomon seeling moldy meat (?), why not put to sell digiseabass? show details...
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Some ideas for a possible updated evolution chart.
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Out of those, the first one is the most likely to happen without the split with the orange... but I would need to also program the way the selection works... which is a huge issue. |
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I'll keep the original for now... I would rather fix all of those when a proper retranslation is done... and fix stuff like "happy mushroom" actually being named "lucky mushroom" in the original... |
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One question @Vicen04 which tools I need to use in order to edit the game text? |
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I use Windhex and a table to be able to read the text... but you have to either learn how the game script works to be able to expand the text or work with the text limit... I'll attach the table, it only works with the USA version. |
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Is there any tool to compare the changes made in WindHex? I mean with the text readable, like WinMerge. I tried the latter since it can compare in hexadecimal, but it doesn’t support loading a table. Thanks for all the help. EDIT: Found a way. Dump text with WindHex, both the base DG file, and the edited one by me. Then compare with WinMerge. |
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I'm using your mod as a base to implement some fixes. I've kept the vanilla mode, Myotismon, and the Quick Battle Text, so I've fixed the vanilla vending machines and added your restaurant fix. Then, I went through all the text and replaced all written-out numbers with digits (just money and stats), along with some typo corrections and adjustments to improve how everything fits and looks in the text boxes. There's something that's caught my attention. In the chart, the Digimon groups are organized by type, except for the Ultimates. Is there a way to reorder them? I suppose it shouldn't be too hard if I can find the right addresses... I looked at your patch that enables the extra Digimon in the chart, but it seems you're using different addresses for that, so I'm kind of in the dark here... Where should I look? |
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Fixed the vending machines? Since you only want to change the location of those... You would need to swap the position and the sprites used for each square... Luckily, those are read for a table rather than be hard coded (I cannot say the same about the input, if you move a square just 1 pixel off, you won't see anything) How it works (from what I remember): The start... I don't have it right now, but it should be before 0x14D64E24... Considering it is about 65 Digimon... Maybe about 520 bytes before that... |
Yep. Gear Savanna machine bonus Double Floppy gives a Super Speed Disk instead if you have full inventory, and Anc. Dino Region machine gives Moldy Meat instead Steak and it doesn't even gives you the MP Floppy. These are very simple stuff for you to implement if you want. |
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Alright, I finished reorganizing the chart. In the end, I realized that the original order of the Ultimates makes more sense than it seems, so I only moved things around a little bit. That said, I left the 3 Megas in the Champion section, so now there are only Ultimates in the orange zone. Here is the patch: dwv_custom.zip A Vice patched ISO is needed, with this config:
Changes:
Use whatever you need @Vicen04 |
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I do remember there was a reason that made sense for the Ultimates order... but I forgot about it... Just a couple of things to note: I imagine you just saw the "number 2" when you checked the chance offset and assumed that was the actual chance... but it doesn't work like that, it is actually a "trigger if the value is equal or lower than 2", which would give a chance to trigger if it is 0, 1 or 2... a total of 3 numbers our of a possible 100 (max is 99). As for the Ancient Dino Region vending machine... that one is meant to sell "moldy meat" not "Steak", the "Steak" text is the mistake... otherwise the player would be completely unable to adquire moldy meat anywhere (and you could also sequence break Myotismon's mansion 1st visit). As for the changes... I probably won't use them... I just like the typos, that's all. As I said, if I ever fix it, I would do a complete retranslation to be accurate... there is a lot of stuff that is wrong and a lot of text that gives you useful info missing... But I'm kinda happy the info is helping the development of a customized version. If you're interested in changing even more, I would recommend to head to the Modding community discord, since it has more info about the game itself (the Github is mostly within the hack), and people which can help. |
Fixed... Thanks!! |
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Since there's already a decompiler for DG files, I've started working on my own hack. Honestly, I just want something relatively simple, but I don’t have much knowledge, so I’m examining everything I can and using your bugfixes as base. For now, I have revised all the game’s text and fixed quite a few bugs in the scripts. Right now, I’m trying to implement fixes for the HUD and the status menu. I see this in your code: I understand the first two are the positions of the happiness and discipline bars, but I don’t know what the last two do, I don’t see any obvious changes. I’m also looking into how to implement your fixes for the stats screen, the virus bar, the happiness stat, etc, and the Gigadramon spite fix for the tournaments. After this I want to replace Panjyamon for WereGarurumon, fix Gigadramon, change acouple of techs, add the evo items to the Merit shop and add the extra digimons to the respective tournaments. Maybe I'll try a R-MetalGreymon > Gigadramon replacement if I feel motivated enough. It would be quite grateful if you can poitn me in the right direction. |
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If I'm not wrong... The first two are the length of the bar that has to render... Except for the tournament Digimon, the Evo items you want to add and the technique changes (kinda)... everything else requires knowledge about the code and being able to change that... Which is far from simple... For the tournaments: you can set which Digimon can participate/appear with the script. It is labeled as unknown 6B I believe... Right after the tournament descriptions... The merit shop is pretty simple, you only have to look for the name of the item to find the item data, I think one of the spreadsheets from the modding discord has info about that? Otherwise is just setting a merit price, that should make those appear at the merit shop. There is more or less an explanation about how to change techniques in the wiki here, the other data part... I'm not sure how helpful it will be, but you can take your time there. As for the rest... I don't know how much knowledge you have about disassembly... The program I use to check the code is Ghidra (I still have to manually setup the data, so it is readable and makes sense), it is mostly reverse engineering the game and trying stuff... I have not finished writing the changes in 2.1 because there are a lot and I'm also pretty busy with everything... As mentioned, the modding discord can help too... |
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Thanks. One more thing, were I can find the stat screen and savegame screen changes? |
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First off i just want to say amazing work |
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The way the Machinedramon/Myotismon addition works is special... I'm not adding new models or anything else, just calling an "improved" NPC version of it... If I want to replace either Gigadramon or MetalEtemon... I would need to replace the models and also... add animations for Myotismon. There is also another reason why I would not do that, but I'm not going to go into details now... |
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oh ok sounds good. you got Weregarurumon working which is already more than i thought would ever happen |
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Excellent work with all the hacks and mods! |
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I'm pretty sure there was not option like that at all... While the idea is not impossible, you usually just recruit the Mojyamon that gives you bad trades (the one at the right side in the map with 2 Mojyamons), since that one is usually useless. |
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Ah, thank you, I think I had seen "Restore Panjamon", confused Panjamon with Mojyamon, and assumed that patch "restored" the recruited Mojyamon. But you're right, I'd forgotten how bad the right Mojyamon's trades are, it's pretty much useless. Is the purpose of the Steak from the Useful Items that it means you can move on to evolving other Digimon quicker, without having to risk losing tamer levels by losing battles or using devil chips? I feel it would also be useful to be able to skip days, to get the 10 year medal easier, or shift to a better position in the arena calendar. Again, having looked at all the spreadsheets and the wiki, I feel like I saw something about skipping time, but now I can't seem to find it. Is there anything in the Vice mod for skipping time, or have I misremembered that too? Finally, is there information on the Better Vending Machines patch, that I just haven't been able to find? I couldn't find it in any of the spreadsheets, notably the optional patches sheet where I'd expect those details to be. Thanks again for your help! |
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Loving the mod. Thank you for the crazy hours you must have put in. I'm trying to find the details of what guardramon upgrade will evolve which digimon. I know the og was mamemon. I believe metal greymon is one of the new ones. Is this info available anywhere? I can't find it in the spreadsheets or changelog, but I feel like I've read it somewhere already? Also, I think I may have installed patch 2.0. If I install a newer patch, will I be able to still use the old save? |
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The main spreadsheet has the data in the "Factorial town" page: You can play a later version with the same save file, just make sure your current partner is not Machinedramon/Myotismon or any Digimon that can be changed with optional patches (or just make sure you have the same options for Digimon). |
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Thank you for all your work on this! This is a really incredible effort, and the result is the definitive Digimon World experience to me.
I also have one maybe absurd pipe dream suggestion: |
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Both suggestions are stuff that the player can just... Choose not to do, there are even easier ways to make money depending on your options... And protection is kinda overpowered, you only need 1 per battle and it makes everything a lot easier... As for the cards thing: I would rather not do that and ruin the cards art... I already had an idea about how to go for requirements, but I'm not even sure if I'll ever reach that point. |
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God! You’ve polished the menus spectacularly… There are still a few small details left, but it’s an incredible piece of work. Thanks for your work, seriously. |
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I'm still working in the same way, but there should be now less issues when you extract it... there is still a lot to do in that regard anyway... |
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Im sorry if this is already stated somewhere but couldnt find any info about it, but im trying to play with the "true hardcore" patch, i tried with nerf tech boost and effect boost and various options, but didnt find a way to change it. Im randomly getting 9999 dmg from enemies and my digis tech, it doesnt seems to be tech boost because its happening on various tech (IE magma bomb with agumon agumon) and i dont seem to find a way to play true hardcore without that 9999 dmg rng, is it a feature or is it bugged? thanks in advance |
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Okay, it seems that exclusively in the "true hardcore" patch some leftover code was changing the last damage calculation: the one that makes sure the damage doesn't go over 9999... |
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Thanks for the quick reply, since no one talked about it i though it was a problem on my end, glad it could be resolved! |
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You have a detailded changelog on the latest script fixes? I've also saw you added MetalGarurumon and WarGreymon as bosses, so you found a way to add new model data to the SLUS. How this was done? |
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Which models did you sacrifice? |
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MetalGreymon and SkullGreymon |
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Thank you very much for this hack. Is the ??????? option in the Tools section of the installer something that can be revealed somehow or is it just a feature that isn't currently implemented? |
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