R/W errors in MacWorks and error 1070 in LisaOS

[RolandJuno]

Background: I have a Lisa 2/5 system that consists of a original CPU and SunRem 2MB cards as well as reproduction motherboard and I/O cards. I'm also using EPROMs as emulated PROMs on the CPU and I/O cards as well as a COP emulator on the I/O card.

Reads from the ArduinoFile seem solid. I've not encountered issues there. The issue seems to be with writes to the device. The symptoms while using the ArduinoFile are:

• MacWorks will report "The file "name" couldn't be written and was skipped (disk error)." while copying a large-ish file (one that typically takes multiple read/write cycles in the Finder).
• When I try to boot into the LisaOS, I get an error 10707.

First I tried the following:

• Monitored the serial port for debug messages. When the error in MacWorks appeared, the debug statement "Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?" appeared.
• Set the timeout value from 10000 to 20000. MacWorks still produced the error but there was no error messages on serial this time.
• Changed the version of SDfat to an earlier version (2.0.5 is pictured in the docs but that wouldn't compile. 2.1.0 was the oldest that would compile).
• Removing the Serial.println statements in an attempt to speed things up

I then found this issue thread which seemed to offer some hope! I tried the following:

• Set the compiler flag to -Ofast.
• Bodged the board to use PORTF instead of PORTL.

None of these so far has resolved the issue in MacWorks. I'm hoping that someone has some ideas of what might be the issue?

Update: I enabled many of the serial debug statements in the code and watched the stream. It seems the Mac will write data and then read it back to verify. I got a new error this time.

• Timeout: Read Command Confirmation
• Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?

PS Alex, I know you're very busy so reply only if time allows! Your university studies should be your top priority! =-)

Originally posted by @RolandJuno in #1 (comment)

[RolandJuno]

I'm using the fork located at https://github.com/alexthecat123/ArduinoFile/tree/2/10-Testing

The CPU card is an original. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any other I/O cards. I'm using H ROMs on the CPU card.

The quartz clock on the CPU card are original. The ones on the I/O board are to spec.

I have been curious about the 6522 as being suspect. I have some extras I can try plus the modern WDC W65C22N6TPG (which I couldn't get to work originally but are supposedly drop-in replacements for the original 6522). Will give this a try.

I've tried three different class 10 SD cards (SanDisk, Samsung and PNY).

Also, as before, I increased the timeout value to 15000 this time and both errors in the serial debug stream went away but the error on MW II+ still persist (but definitely seem to be related to reading back what was just written).

Is there a way to write to the debug stream the actual data in HEX that is being read and written? That could help me pinpoint if it's an actual verify error or a timing error.

[RolandJuno]

I just tried three different 6522 chips in U5C. A SY6522A, MOS6522, and a new W65C22N6TPG. All three produce errors from the ArduinoFile.

`Timeout: Write Command Second Handshake Part 2
Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?

Timeout: Read Command Confirmation
Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?

Timeout: Write Command Confirmation
Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?
`

Does this seem to show that we're missing a signal (or never get one)?

[RolandJuno]

I connected my logic analyzer to the pins pictured in the screenshot (6 control lines and 2 data lines). I attempted to copy a large application in MW II+. It produced a write error on the Mac side. The last few lines of the debug from the ArduinoFile are:

..
010034F7030A
010034FC030A
010034F1030A
010034F6030A
010034FB030A
01003500030A
01003505030A
0100350A030A
0100350F030A
01003504030A
01003509030A
Timeout: Write Command Confirmation
Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?

The logic analyzer was stopped shortly thereafter with this near the end of the capture.

Zooming in:

Hopefully this helps? Let me know if you want the raw data or more screenshots or measurements.

[mg-man]

I'm using H ROMs on the CPU card.

Can you use H ROMs on a 2/5 I/O board? I thought H ROMs were for the 2/10?

[RolandJuno]

Yes, H it works with a 2/5 system. H/A8 is the combination I have.

Common/Recommended combinations:

H/A8 - Typical for a Lisa 2 or 2/5

Source: https://lisafaq.sunder.net/lisafaq-hw-rom_versions.html

[mg-man]

Fair enough, I knew there was a diff between the 2/5 & 2/10... but that's the A8 vs 88 - mine's [2/10] the latter.

[RolandJuno]

I get further in the MW II+ copy by changing timeout in ArduinoFile to uint32_t and increasing it x10 to 100000. It seems to fail at the end with a "disk error" now rather than a write error.

I decided to run Disk First Aid and it reports it's not an HFS disk. ArduinoFile produces an error:

0000FFE1030A
Error: Requested block is out of range!
0000018C030A

Maybe that's expected behavior? @mg-man Can you successfully use Disk First Aid with your ArduinoFile?

[mg-man]

I'm the one who started the Issue #1 thread, and tried over-clocking my Mega and also the Port F mod. I was never able to get my ArduinoFile to fully boot as my Lisa is a 2/10. I've not had a chance to try these latest mods, but am excited to do so. Will have to wait, though, on vacation with family atm.

[RolandJuno]

Your detailed posts and tenacity are what drove me to dive deeper into this issue I'm having-- thank you for that! Enjoy your holiday!

[mg-man]

Thx. I'm pretty excited to try @i-to-z's compile flag as soon as I can find some time. I'm also restoring a 2/5 which I want one of these for as well!

[mg-man]

Out of curiosity, have you tried another LS280?

[RolandJuno]

Lots of progress just made. I noticed that when I gave it a really long timeout, the second error "Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?" didn't appear anymore. Additionally, the system wouldn't boot properly into the drive selector mode for aphid/cameo (it just hung and the green light never came on).

I decided to keep timeout at 10x (100,000). I created a secondary timeout for all those loops called phaseTimeout and set it to the original (10,000).

uint16_t phaseTimeout = 10000; //around 18ms
uint32_t timeout = 100000;
...
if(currentTime >= phaseTimeout){
sei();
delay(10);
Serial.println(F("Phase 1: Host didn't respond with a 55! Maybe the drive was reset?"));
delay(10);
cli();
return;
}

I also decided to start from scratch. I created a new 32MB harddrive image and booted from a MW II+ floppy. I chose the internal Profile in the installer and clicked install. It began by formatting the drive. The ArduinoFile began reporting sequential block writes as expected. I also noticed this took a lot longer than it did in previous attempts (I wasn't monitoring the serial debug stream previously however so it very well could have had an error there).

Curiously, when it got to block 8000, it began reporting "Error: Request block out of range!"

...
01007FF2030A
01007FF7030A
01007FFC030A
01007FF1030A
01007FF6030A
01007FFB030A
01008000030A
Error: Requested block is out of range!
01008005030A
Error: Requested block is out of range!
0100800A030A
Error: Requested block is out of range!
0100800F030A
Error: Requested block is out of range!
01008004030A
...

Despite this I let it roll. It eventually successfully installed everything. First real test was to copy a System Folder over to it, which worked the first time. I rebooted and proceeded to install System 6.0.8 which worked without issue. I rebooted and copied over Photoshop 1.0 which also worked!

So far, that may have solved the issue! I'll continue testing to be sure and will report here.

[i-to-z]

RolandJuno,
I haven't tried running MacWorks+ on a Lisa. I want to try it too.
Which of the many versions listed here are you using?
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/apple-lisa/software_search.php?s=macworks

Also: have you tried less-demanding operating systems on your Lisa, like MacWorksXL3.0 ? Since it works well for most of us, it may be a good validation for you that your hardware is solid.

Regarding the "Error: Requested block is out of range!" error: Perhaps you should try installing MW+ on a larger blank image file?
My rough calculations are:
01008000030A means "write to sector 008000 in HEX" = 128x256x532/(1024*1024) = about 16.6MB. So give it a blank image file with a size above this, maybe try 20MB. Note: I am unsure why the installation software decided that the disc is so large. The Widget HDD is just 10MB, the ProFile is just 5 MB.

[RolandJuno]

Thanks for the reply! I chose a disk image size of 32MB which I believe is supported with MacWorks. I hope that the installer was able to read the size of the disk before attempting to format it.

In any case, the ArduinoFile now has been working flawlessly all night. I've been installing a lot of software and docs on it without a single disk read/write error. It's amazing that AppleTalk works with it too-- I'm able to connect to my RaspberryPi running MacIPGW via a EtherTalk to LocalTalk adapter.

Tomorrow I hope to try the LisaOS again to see if it clears up the 10707 error I was getting.

[DosFox1]

@RolandJuno That's brilliant! Do you think that fix would work with a stock ArduinoFile without the PORTF mod?

Also any chance you could share the complete .ino file? Thanks!