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Feedback on Hydrant Entity Attributes #132
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hydrant.signage: |
hydrant.identifier: |
hydrant.usage: |
Thanks for the feedback @VPiersonSWDE. The identifier attribute is broad enough to all for different types of patterns. The Identifier data type is used in ADMS and allow for contextual information to be captured (see below).
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Thank you for raising the question about the signaling attribute for hydrants. It may be worthwhile to investigate whether other group members have this data, and if not, we may recommend removing the attribute. Alternatively, if it's determined that the attribute is valuable, we can make it optional for companies who may not have this information. |
We received input from Vivaqua regarding the attributes they report on and made a mapping with those we have already proposed to include in our data model.
For hydrant.valveType ("Vanne"), we received the following input: "no valve", "valve sandwich", "simpel valve", " combined valve", "unknown". We propose a code list and ask the working group whether this list is exhaustive. However, there are still some new ones which we are researching further. We would already like to point out three of these new attributes:
We ask the group to let us know whether these attributes should be included in the model. In case they should be added to the model, we would like to ask the community about the different values for these attributes or if they should be string fields. |
Water-link provided us with input regarding the attributes necessary to document hydrants. We have created a mapping between their attributes and ours, along with suggested data types. Based on our analysis, it appears that there are two different attributes related to the status of hydrants, namely '
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After comparing the code lists received from different sources, we have identified that 'ondergronds' (underground) and 'bovengronds' (above ground) types are the common denominators. Therefore, we will use these attributes as the basis for documenting the type of hydrants in our list. If there are additional attributes that should be included in our list, please let us know.
We received a set of attributes from Water Link, which include the following:
Similary, we received these extra attributes from Fluvia:
However, upon comparing the lists from different sources, we found that none of the other materials received referred to these specific attributes. Therefore, we have not included them in the mapping table. It's important to note that the attribute for diameter is captured by another attribute, which is already included in the model. |
Concerning ' AIEC, on the other hand, uses a different approach for stating the operational status of a hydrant through "excellent","bon", "mauvais" and "à remplacer". Please note that this analysis is based on actual data received, and it may not cover all potential pipe statuses. Furthermore, Water-link presented an even more extensive list:
Although we have observed different values in various models, we are confident that they can be mapped to the initial proposition mentioned in #132 (comment): "operational," "out of service," and "scheduled for maintenance". We would appreciate it if you could confirm whether these three attributes are exhaustive for a code list on Lastly, we noticed that Pidpa also has an attribute called |
We noticed that there is are some participants who measure We ask the working group whether L/min is the best unit of measure for this attribute or whether another one must be used (e.g., m3/h)? Furthermore, Zone VHP indicated the irrelevance of the attribute Lastly, Zone VHP also proposed the attribute hydrant.openingKey ("clé de manoeuvre") with the following values:
Since we have not seen this attribute anywhere else, we ask the working group to let us know whether this should be included into the model and if so, whether it needs to be a code list or a string. |
As we are investigating all elements of a hydrant which are of importance, we would like to ask once more whether the "flange" (bride) is of value to insert into the data model. |
We received some interesting insights regarding the valve of a hydrant. In the model used by AIEC, a valve is an entity on itself with the following attributes:
However, we will not include these attributes in our model and create a separate entity for valve at this moment. We do ask the working group to inform us in case some (or all) of these attributes should indeed be documented in our model. Furthermore, Zone VHP highlighted that we should include the attribute Value examples for hydrant exits/outlets:
As far as we understood, no other organisation specifically pointed out these "outlets". We therefore ask the working group if the attribute of "diameter" is mentioned in a data model, it then refers to this element or to the valve of a hydrant? We also ask the working group whether |
After further analysis, this attribute will not be documented in the model as the employee who performed this action is of lesser importance to our model and only of internal importance for water companies . The main focus for our model lies on which organisation operates a certain hydrant. Please let us know in case any of you disagree with this comment. |
During the first thematic workshop, it was indicated that "Open Water" should also be included into the model (under
We kindly ask the working group to let us know if Open Water can be mapped under `hydrant.type or if it should be a separate entity? Furthermore, if it should be a separate entity, please inform us whether these attributes related to open waters should also be included into the model and if they are exhaustive. We thank you in advance. |
Open Water - is not a hydrant - it will have different attributes, so it's more logic to see it as a different feature. (naturally you could make it one by adding a type with possible values 'Open Water' and 'Hydrant' - disadvantage is then several attributes empty depending on this type) I would choose for 2 different features. |
Avoid names of persons else GDPR will apply, contacts can be phonenumber , emailaddres, servicename (companyname) |
I see for status , you indicate operational , out of service, scheduled for maintenance. |
If all this data is brought to one platform - also to talk about is, frequency en format of data exchange. and for actual status do you want for example a rest-service so this can be requested and verified real time ? (think about a unique key of the hydrant then) or use of wms / wfs with color-symbol to know actual status (use OGC standards for exchange of data) |
We have initiated the public review of the ICEG Hydrants model. We appreciate all the feedback we received within this conversation and want to notify that everything has been addressed in the model, which can be accessed via the following link: https://belgif.github.io/thematic/models/hydrants/index_en.html We advise you to review the model internally and welcome any final adjustment requests or suggestions you may have. Kind regards, |
FireHydrant Identifier FlowRate Status LastInspectionDate StartDate Geometry OpeningKey StatusRemark Address Outlet Valve |
We would like to request feedback from the community on the Hydrant entity attributes in the ICEG Data Model. Specifically, we would like to know if the following attributes for the Hydrant entity are sufficient to cater for various use cases or if there are any attributes that are missing.
Also, we have provided some values for the attributes below, but we would appreciate confirmation of the specific type of values that these attribute can take, when relevant
In addition, we would like to know if the community would prefer any of these attributes to be optional or mandatory and what the cardinalities should be. We would also like to know if the community would be able to provide all the mandatory information, or, with data minimization in mind, if some of the entities and/or attributes should be stripped off.
Please share your feedback and suggestions so that we can improve the ICEG Data Model. Thank you in advance for your valuable input!
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