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Electric vehicle charge points #60
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Thanks Henry, this looks like a good idea. The PDF version of the standard is at https://github.com/ocpi/ocpi/releases/download/2.1.1/OCPI_2.1.1.pdf Seems well defined, and uses ISO8601, HTTP, and other common standards. @thehenster do you know which government departments, local councils, or other bodies would make use of this? @Lawrence-G let's start the regular process. |
I'm trying to arrange a conversation with the current governance of the project at the moment. So far I just know some companies that are using it - EVBox, New Motion, and Elaad. I'll post back if I discover any public bodies. |
Ordnance Survey takes the National Charge Point Registry data & includes it in our OS Open Map - Local (https://os.uk/business-and-government/products/os-open-map-local.html). We output it in XML (as one of the data choices), "shape" (beloved of GIS people), and as a raster image. Our XML output includes charging method, voltage, and a free text string giving the 'type' of charger. I expect we would continue to use OffLEV's service aggregating this data. Possibly relevant open standard found by targeted googling: https://www.iso.org/standard/69693.html (UK is represented on the 'committee' for that). |
Battery performance is temperature dependent. Perhaps an option would be to record the temperature of the charging session as well as its time and duration. This may give or improve insight into battery performance, with weather dependency, driver behavior ("fill it up" vs "just enough to get me home"). |
OpenStreetMap now contains the locations of over 18,000 electric vehicle charging points. Some documentation of this is contained on the OSM Wiki. The OSM community has managed to produce a lightweight ontological 'tagging' scheme for charging points providing multiple socket interfaces with different voltages, as well as providing space for further information covering acceptable vehicle types, whether a fee is payable for parking, charging (or both), and how that fee can be paid (credit/debit card? via an app? etc.), as well as what authentication process is used to start charging (SMS verification, tapping an NFC receiver, etc.) Looking at a number of tagged charge points in London, there's a variety of data, ranging from merely an assertion that a charge point exists through to a number which specify the number of cars that can be charged simultaneously, and what charging standards are in use. The Taginfo system from OpenStreetMap shows the kind of data used in combination with One important potential use case for this kind of data is the provision of open source, open data satellite navigation systems to enable satnav users to get to the nearest compatible charging point, just as they currently do with petrol stations. It would be good if the data sharing that goes on with this does not get locked in to proprietary systems provided either by manufacturers, or specific to particular countries or regions. |
@PeterParslow Thank you! We hadn't heard that NCR data was being used in OS OpenMap Local. It's difficult to find out who uses the data. Because it's open it's users are often anonymous. @chris-little Thanks for the feedback. Some companies are experimenting with putting telematics devices in cars which feedback recharging efficiency. Maybe an alternative would be to combine existing weather station data and charge point location data to get a rough idea of the conditions at a charge point. @tommorris I've never contributed to OSM and so don't know much about it's inner workings. The tagging scheme looks like a good start, but charge point data can be complicated. The NCR struggles to represent it accurately. Is all data in the OSM added via community contributions? Are there examples out of there of "official" data sources being integrated? |
I have implemented a large chunk of the OCPI specification myself as part of an EV Interoperability work I am doing. The specification is actually very matured and very well documented and I am happy to contribute to a public reference implementation. OCPI could be considered as the answer to this consultation by Energy UK: https://www.energy-uk.org.uk/publication.html?task=file.download&id=6576 Lastly the big charging point manufacturers are now adopting OCPI too |
@Lawrence-G @edent is this still open? We are currently working on a cross Catapult project (Future Cities, Transport Systems, Digital & Energy Systems) looking at the user experience for EVs and what supporting digital infrastructure is needed to address challenges with the user experience including standards. |
Yes - we are waiting for more comments and to see how OLEV want to take this forward. If you (Cities Catapult) want to take ownership of it, that would be great. |
Ok great, that's a yes, we would be interested to speak to OLEV and i think the results of our work on this will be useful to inform future direction. The project is looking at scenarios and what technology interventions could solve this which may need different types of data exchange. |
I have now stopped working on that bit of NCR discovery work, but I have just sent an email to the product owner of the project at OLEV with a link to this challenge/issue. Hopefully something will come of it. |
@thehenster Did anything come out of it? Given this: |
I didn't hear from them I'm afraid. That article is the first I've heard of the requirement for 'smart' technology in OLEV funded charge points from July 2019. From the text I suspect they're talking about demand shifting, which is where a charge point can be remotely instructed to try and start charges outside of demand peaks. It could mean vehicle to grid (V2G) - but I doubt it considering everyone is still publishing feasibility studies for it. |
Here is a link to the technical specification that is being used to define the information sharing protocol for smart charging that links to gaining grant funding for installing home or workplace EV charging: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/772457/electric-vehicle-chargepoint-scheme-technical-spec-july-2019.pdf This references The Open Charge Point Protocol (OCPP) version 1.6 (or above), or an equivalent. Let me know if you have an opinion on this. I am meeting with Gemserve in the next couple of weeks and others to get a bit more intel on how smart charging standards are evolving. Here is also a link to the work that we are doing on this subject if anyone is interested in feeding into this. https://futurecities.catapult.org.uk/project/electric-vehicles-delivering-an-excellent-user-experience/. |
It's looks as though, in this case of the Electric Vehicle Homecharge Scheme, smart means demand shifting - which means being able to communicate with the charge point to control/limit/schedule the power output. OCPP can manage demand shifting. The The forecasting and commnication of that dynamic schedule is where Open Smart Charging Protocol (OSCP) comes in: http://cired.net/publications/cired2015/papers/CIRED2015_0106_final.pdf .. but that spec isn't talking about that (yet). |
@thehenster Henry, would be good to talk to you in person about this challenge, if you don’t mind getting in touch gsummerson@futurecities.catapult.org.uk so I could set up a call in the first instance….. |
I try to promote a federated OCPI-flavoured model these days. |
its, not it's. |
Closing this challenge down due to a lack of activity since 2021. |
Electric vehicle charge points
Title
A bulk dataset to represent electric vehicle charge points - such as position, power, and connector types available.
Category
Challenge Owner
Henry Turner working on behalf of the Office of Low Emission Vehicles (OLEV), which is part of the Department for Transport (DfT), and the National Chargepoint Registry (NCR).
Short Description
Charge points are represented by a collection of static data such as it's position, the power available, the connector types it has, the cost to use it, or any parking restrictions in force in the relevant parking bay. In additional to this there is a collection of live/dynamic data about whether it is in use or not.
Currently the charge point operators generally publish the data in proprietary formats. Mostly we expect this is because of the lack of communication, but in some cases operators offer features that others do not. For example, one operator does not offer live/dynamic data, another does, and another offers live/dynamic data about whether it is in use or not and future reservations.
There is an existing service called the NCR http://www.national-charge-point-registry.uk/.
The more complete and consistent the dataset the more useful it will be to it's users (see below).
User Need
Electric vehicle owners need to charge their car while away from home or are without a charging facility at home. Drivers won't use the dataset directly, but there are quite a few consumers of the data that provide mapping and routing software.
Charge point operators need to publish the availability of their charge points to attract business.
Researchers who are planning infrastructure or doing product development.
Expected Benefits
OLEV's goal is to promote low emission vehicles in the UK to reduce pollution and reliance on a finite fuel source. One of their areas of focus is how to recharge electric vehicles which is a blocker to their adoption.
A measurable outcome would be an increased number of charge points published. Another measurable outcome would be richer data such as live/dynamic data.
Functional Needs
OCPI (Open Charge Point Interface)
It seems OCPI is gaining some traction elsewhere in Europe (The Netherlands and Germany). A decent chunk of OCPI seems to be related to interoperability and roaming between charge point networks, which is probably outside the scope of the NCR, it does contain some endpoints for geographical information (locations in their terminology) and live/dynamic data (sessions in their terminology). Potentially promising but it seems lacking in license information and ownership, which we are attempting to investigate. Any guidance around evaluating it or how to proceed would be valuable.
The document itself: https://github.com/ocpi/ocpi
An example from the locations endpoint: https://github.com/ocpi/Samples/blob/master/ocpi/chargepoints.md
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