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funkymonkeymonk opened this Issue Sep 3, 2014 · 276 comments

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funkymonkeymonk commented Sep 3, 2014

Are there any showstopping blockers to working on linux? It looks like a pretty handy tool and I'd love to try it out.

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Kitematic is written in node-webkit so there aren't really any big blockers. A few of the binaries included like unison would need to be swapped out for a linux version. Some of the file paths would need to be updated as well. I'll follow up with more details once some of the pressing bugs (installer!) are patched.

Best part about Linux is no requirement on VirtualBox :)

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Kitematic is written in node-webkit so there aren't really any big blockers. A few of the binaries included like unison would need to be swapped out for a linux version. Some of the file paths would need to be updated as well. I'll follow up with more details once some of the pressing bugs (installer!) are patched.

Best part about Linux is no requirement on VirtualBox :)

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i just tried something here as a starting point https://github.com/deepak1556/kitematic/tree/linux

deepak1556 commented Sep 4, 2014

i just tried something here as a starting point https://github.com/deepak1556/kitematic/tree/linux

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It looks like the dev environment is a running meteor server. Do you feel it would be a good idea to set up a Dockerfile which installs the dependencies via the package manager, and runs the dev environment? That seems like a first step and would allow both linux and OSX users to dev/work in the same environment.

Try looking at shipyard deploy as an example of what I'm thinking.

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It looks like the dev environment is a running meteor server. Do you feel it would be a good idea to set up a Dockerfile which installs the dependencies via the package manager, and runs the dev environment? That seems like a first step and would allow both linux and OSX users to dev/work in the same environment.

Try looking at shipyard deploy as an example of what I'm thinking.

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Yeah, linux support would be awesome.

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Yeah, linux support would be awesome.

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What about remote linux support to via ssh? :o


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What about Debian? Usually you create a package for Debian which is then available for Ubuntu.

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zedtux commented Jun 15, 2016

What about Debian? Usually you create a package for Debian which is then available for Ubuntu.

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@geovanisouza92 @carukc https://github.com/docker/kitematic/releases/tag/v0.12.0

@zedtux it was created for debian but Ubuntu being a bigger keyword, it's named Ubuntu.

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@geovanisouza92 @carukc https://github.com/docker/kitematic/releases/tag/v0.12.0

@zedtux it was created for debian but Ubuntu being a bigger keyword, it's named Ubuntu.

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Fantastic! Thanks.

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Fantastic! Thanks.

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Doesn't the Ubuntu release run on Debian?

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fahrradflucht commented Sep 10, 2016

Doesn't the Ubuntu release run on Debian?

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@fahrradflucht @brunosimioni I'm sorry but I think that Ubuntu release will never run on Debian (or the other way arround) cause off different library versions on this distributions.
But the build process will give you the package needed, depending on the distribution you build from.
I think it's fair enough, if you use Debian you can build Debian packages and if you use Ubuntu you can build Ubuntu packages as well.
Off course you can always use vagrant or any virtualization technology, even a Dockerfile to to build cross-distribution packages.

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@fahrradflucht @brunosimioni I'm sorry but I think that Ubuntu release will never run on Debian (or the other way arround) cause off different library versions on this distributions.
But the build process will give you the package needed, depending on the distribution you build from.
I think it's fair enough, if you use Debian you can build Debian packages and if you use Ubuntu you can build Ubuntu packages as well.
Off course you can always use vagrant or any virtualization technology, even a Dockerfile to to build cross-distribution packages.

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@adomenech73 Most Ubuntu packages and libs are coming from the debian repositories, so there is no real possibility of incompatibility. If yes, then it is easily solvable either by source recompiling, or by binary patching. But I never heard that such a problem had been happened.

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@adomenech73 Most Ubuntu packages and libs are coming from the debian repositories, so there is no real possibility of incompatibility. If yes, then it is easily solvable either by source recompiling, or by binary patching. But I never heard that such a problem had been happened.

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@HorvathAkosPeter That's true, but on the other hand Ubuntu comes from freezed
testing Debian sources, so most of the time library versions are notably
different between stable versions of both distributions also other aspects
(like boot process) are diferent ass well. I'm not very sure with
Kitematic, didn't try this really but I'm pretty sure that if I build a
Debian package of Docker and try to install it on Ubuntu (or vice versa)
will not work out of the box. Also the Kitematic deb package it's done
througth electron builder module and that will always create the package
with the dependencies linked to the distribution you are running from.

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@HorvathAkosPeter That's true, but on the other hand Ubuntu comes from freezed
testing Debian sources, so most of the time library versions are notably
different between stable versions of both distributions also other aspects
(like boot process) are diferent ass well. I'm not very sure with
Kitematic, didn't try this really but I'm pretty sure that if I build a
Debian package of Docker and try to install it on Ubuntu (or vice versa)
will not work out of the box. Also the Kitematic deb package it's done
througth electron builder module and that will always create the package
with the dependencies linked to the distribution you are running from.

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@adomenech73 Can you try the package before making assumptions and report back?

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@adomenech73 Can you try the package before making assumptions and report back?

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@FrenchBen You are rigth, and I had to check before talking, and seems to be I was wrong after all.

I built two packages, one from ubuntu and one from debian. Both using with node 4.6.0

Both of them install indistinctly on both operating systems. So they are actually cross Distribution compatible packages (Ubuntu/Debian).

Seems to exist minimal differences on package size 35179928 bytes on Debian vs 35330018 on Ubuntu.

Just dynamic tag values variation on ldd over kitematic binary. (I attach both of the outputs)

ldd_debian.txt
ldd_ubuntu.txt

Seems to happen some sort of home loading page problem when it continuously search for remote repositories or images, but seems to be transversal because it happens exactly the same on any installation combination. I can login on my account and check my local images and containers without any problem.

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@FrenchBen You are rigth, and I had to check before talking, and seems to be I was wrong after all.

I built two packages, one from ubuntu and one from debian. Both using with node 4.6.0

Both of them install indistinctly on both operating systems. So they are actually cross Distribution compatible packages (Ubuntu/Debian).

Seems to exist minimal differences on package size 35179928 bytes on Debian vs 35330018 on Ubuntu.

Just dynamic tag values variation on ldd over kitematic binary. (I attach both of the outputs)

ldd_debian.txt
ldd_ubuntu.txt

Seems to happen some sort of home loading page problem when it continuously search for remote repositories or images, but seems to be transversal because it happens exactly the same on any installation combination. I can login on my account and check my local images and containers without any problem.

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Thanks @adomenech73 for sharing the results of cross-platform builds.

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Thanks @adomenech73 for sharing the results of cross-platform builds.

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What would be the best way to get kitematic up and running on an arm64 architectured box (ODROID C2 with Ubuntu 16.04 in my case)?

ontoport commented Oct 16, 2016

What would be the best way to get kitematic up and running on an arm64 architectured box (ODROID C2 with Ubuntu 16.04 in my case)?

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@wbartussek fistful you will need docker and node with grunt globally installed on the C2 then download there the kitematic sources either by cloning the repository with git or downloading any of the latests source release you also will need some requirements sudo apt-get install curl git dpkg fakeroot after that you must be able to build aarch64 package with grunt release you will find installable package under dist directory

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@wbartussek fistful you will need docker and node with grunt globally installed on the C2 then download there the kitematic sources either by cloning the repository with git or downloading any of the latests source release you also will need some requirements sudo apt-get install curl git dpkg fakeroot after that you must be able to build aarch64 package with grunt release you will find installable package under dist directory

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Thanks a lot. Seems to be a challenge. For me this is a weekend activity. So I'll be back next Monday ;-)

ontoport commented Oct 17, 2016

Thanks a lot. Seems to be a challenge. For me this is a weekend activity. So I'll be back next Monday ;-)

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@wbartussek Don't be scared seems a lot but you will see it's simple. Docker you can install from Ubuntu itself sudo apt-get install docker.io you don't need latests version for that. Node I didn't explain cause you have multiple ways, but my favorite is using nvm, you can do with simple command curl -o- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/creationix/nvm/v0.32.0/install.sh | bash and after you are can install any node version nvm install v4.6.0 is my recomendation, you can do this from the unprivileged user (you don't need sudo). You will also need to install grunt globally, yo can do this with npm install -g grunt-cli.
Finally you install the requirements as I pointed and download kitematic source. You will see it's not that hard!!

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@wbartussek Don't be scared seems a lot but you will see it's simple. Docker you can install from Ubuntu itself sudo apt-get install docker.io you don't need latests version for that. Node I didn't explain cause you have multiple ways, but my favorite is using nvm, you can do with simple command curl -o- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/creationix/nvm/v0.32.0/install.sh | bash and after you are can install any node version nvm install v4.6.0 is my recomendation, you can do this from the unprivileged user (you don't need sudo). You will also need to install grunt globally, yo can do this with npm install -g grunt-cli.
Finally you install the requirements as I pointed and download kitematic source. You will see it's not that hard!!

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@adomenech73 Following your advice I got a bit further. However when I run npm installin dir /home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0, I get this error:

electron-prebuilt@0.36.12 postinstall /home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0/node_modules/electron-prebuilt
> node install.js

Downloading electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip
Error: GET https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip returned 404
/home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0/node_modules/electron-prebuilt/install.js:22
  throw err
  ^

Error: Failed to find Electron v0.36.12 for linux-arm64 at https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip

If you try to go to the referenced url you get of course also a 404. Looking at
https://github.com/electron/electron/releases?after=v0.37.6
(where you also find the v0.36.12 releases), it turns out that there is no arm64 zip file, but instead a file called
https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm.zip
This naming convention is also valid for all newer versions.
Now I searched the kitematic directory to find the file where I could replace this wrong reference. Unfortunately to no avail. So, I'm stuck right now.

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@adomenech73 Following your advice I got a bit further. However when I run npm installin dir /home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0, I get this error:

electron-prebuilt@0.36.12 postinstall /home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0/node_modules/electron-prebuilt
> node install.js

Downloading electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip
Error: GET https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip returned 404
/home/odroid/Downloads/kitematic-0.12.0/node_modules/electron-prebuilt/install.js:22
  throw err
  ^

Error: Failed to find Electron v0.36.12 for linux-arm64 at https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm64.zip

If you try to go to the referenced url you get of course also a 404. Looking at
https://github.com/electron/electron/releases?after=v0.37.6
(where you also find the v0.36.12 releases), it turns out that there is no arm64 zip file, but instead a file called
https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/download/v0.36.12/electron-v0.36.12-linux-arm.zip
This naming convention is also valid for all newer versions.
Now I searched the kitematic directory to find the file where I could replace this wrong reference. Unfortunately to no avail. So, I'm stuck right now.

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@wbartussek I'm so sorry you are totally on true, absolutely my fault!!
I have a serious mix-mess between docker products and architectures

As you pointed electron, still is not ported to arm64 (this happens often cause is still a very new arch and usually not supported still)

Even trying to cross compiling like pointed in Github gets broke when downloading chromium content.

Other ways I also was expecting to use kitematic was through docker-machine, seems to me better option to operate remotely over docker on ARM SoC cards, but also seems to be stuck.

I suppose we still have to wait to see a more general use of the arch
but good start point could be try to recover some of the work previously done by hypriot it could be a really smart feature

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@wbartussek I'm so sorry you are totally on true, absolutely my fault!!
I have a serious mix-mess between docker products and architectures

As you pointed electron, still is not ported to arm64 (this happens often cause is still a very new arch and usually not supported still)

Even trying to cross compiling like pointed in Github gets broke when downloading chromium content.

Other ways I also was expecting to use kitematic was through docker-machine, seems to me better option to operate remotely over docker on ARM SoC cards, but also seems to be stuck.

I suppose we still have to wait to see a more general use of the arch
but good start point could be try to recover some of the work previously done by hypriot it could be a really smart feature

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RPM distributions DO exist, and they are popular (Fedora, OpenSUSE).

Please provide a RPM package.

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RPM distributions DO exist, and they are popular (Fedora, OpenSUSE).

Please provide a RPM package.

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install archlinux

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install archlinux

aur/kitematic-git 2172.e75c1c4-1 [installed: 2199.3aeba38-1] (0) (0.00)
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So, when will we see a Linux package? It's been nearly two years since Linux support was merged in, and still the home page says that Kitematic is "for Mac and Windows"? Come on!

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So, when will we see a Linux package? It's been nearly two years since Linux support was merged in, and still the home page says that Kitematic is "for Mac and Windows"? Come on!

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Maybe is responsibility of linux distributions (and users) to package it and maintain those packages (?)... archlinux is supporting it from 2015, see http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kitematic and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kitematic-git

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Maybe is responsibility of linux distributions (and users) to package it and maintain those packages (?)... archlinux is supporting it from 2015, see http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kitematic and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kitematic-git

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I would think that this is related to the release process. Kitematic is using a very old version of electron and release process. I feel like bumping the electron version, using electron forge for release and then running releases on travis (for mac and linux) and appveyor (for windows) would be the way to go.

I'm kinda working on this but am pretty new to the electron ecosystem so... any help would be appreciated (especially knowledge about migrating old electron projects and/or setting up release pipelines for appveyor).

EDIT: Actually there is an Ubuntu package (maybe .deb or something)... so there is linux support. But if you want other package types, I bet it's on you to implement that.

However... electron forge should help support more package types... so I think that would be a good update.

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I would think that this is related to the release process. Kitematic is using a very old version of electron and release process. I feel like bumping the electron version, using electron forge for release and then running releases on travis (for mac and linux) and appveyor (for windows) would be the way to go.

I'm kinda working on this but am pretty new to the electron ecosystem so... any help would be appreciated (especially knowledge about migrating old electron projects and/or setting up release pipelines for appveyor).

EDIT: Actually there is an Ubuntu package (maybe .deb or something)... so there is linux support. But if you want other package types, I bet it's on you to implement that.

However... electron forge should help support more package types... so I think that would be a good update.

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cancerberoSgx Nov 6, 2017

@mhelmetag FYI Electron based apps in new linux systems have an ugly issue on native dialog (like alert, confirm, filechoosers, basically is not displaying characters...) electron/electron#9616 . Its happening in kinematic-git version and is fixed in new electron versions so I guess is a good idea to update it in kinematic ! :) . thanks

cancerberoSgx commented Nov 6, 2017

@mhelmetag FYI Electron based apps in new linux systems have an ugly issue on native dialog (like alert, confirm, filechoosers, basically is not displaying characters...) electron/electron#9616 . Its happening in kinematic-git version and is fixed in new electron versions so I guess is a good idea to update it in kinematic ! :) . thanks

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