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Fastphylo to calculate distance matrices for filtering? #6

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nhoffman opened this issue Dec 9, 2013 · 4 comments
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Fastphylo to calculate distance matrices for filtering? #6

nhoffman opened this issue Dec 9, 2013 · 4 comments

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nhoffman commented Dec 9, 2013

Might be a faster alternative to fasttree (looks like it requires aligned sequences)

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/14/334

Fastphylo: Fast tools for phylogenetics

"We present fastphylo, a software package containing implementations of efficient algorithms for two common problems in phylogenetics: estimating DNA/protein sequence distances and reconstructing a phylogeny from a distance matrix. We compare fastphylo with other neighbor joining based methods and report the results in terms of speed and memory efficiency."

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cmccoy commented Dec 9, 2013

I believe that FastTree is sub-quadratic, so fastphylo is likely to be
slower if it creates and operates on a distance matrix.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Noah Hoffman notifications@github.comwrote:

Might be a faster alternative to fasttree (looks like it requires aligned
sequences)

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/14/334

Fastphylo: Fast tools for phylogenetics

"We present fastphylo, a software package containing implementations of
efficient algorithms for two common problems in phylogenetics: estimating
DNA/protein sequence distances and reconstructing a phylogeny from a
distance matrix. We compare fastphylo with other neighbor joining based
methods and report the results in terms of speed and memory efficiency."


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matsen commented Dec 10, 2013

Yep. It would be useful in some application where you need the distances
themselves (e.g. regression) or you are given a distance matrix and want to
make a tree. I don't think that's us though.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Connor McCoy notifications@github.comwrote:

I believe that FastTree is sub-quadratic, so fastphylo is likely to be
slower if it creates and operates on a distance matrix.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Noah Hoffman notifications@github.comwrote:

Might be a faster alternative to fasttree (looks like it requires
aligned
sequences)

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/14/334

Fastphylo: Fast tools for phylogenetics

"We present fastphylo, a software package containing implementations of
efficient algorithms for two common problems in phylogenetics:
estimating
DNA/protein sequence distances and reconstructing a phylogeny from a
distance matrix. We compare fastphylo with other neighbor joining based
methods and report the results in terms of speed and memory efficiency."


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https://github.com/fhcrc/deenurp/issues/6>
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Connor McCoy
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Seattle, WA 98109-1924
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FWIW, we do use the distances themselves to calculate centroids and outliers - this is calculated using FastTree -nt -makematrix seqs.fasta. It isn't really clear to me from the docs or help text what, exactly, these distances represent (ie, sum of branch lengths between leaves vs pairwise distances of some sort - log-corrected distances, perhaps?).

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cmccoy commented Dec 10, 2013

Ah, my apologies for closing then.

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