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Null Loop Agent Experiments

MIT License Reproducible Python 3.11+

Testing basal behavioral patterns of language models with truly empty prompts.

Under a null self-conditioning loop (empty prompt; previous output fed back verbatim), base models (e.g., Llama-3-8B) converge to structural attractors (EOF-like markers) with SSR≈0/TIAR≈0, while instruction-tuned variants immediately self-initiate assistant behavior (SSR>0) and sustain pseudo-dialogue. We release a lightweight harness, metrics (SSR, TIAR, SRV, entropy), and seed logs to serve as a reproducible null-loop stability probe for alignment and eval workflows.

Current Status

Phase 1 - Base Model Complete

  • Llama-3-8B Base: 20 seeds, SSR=0.0, TIAR=0.0, SRV=0.0
  • Results: results_base/
  • Finding: Base model generates degenerate patterns, no agency

Phase 1 - Instruct Model Complete

  • Llama-3-8B Instruct: 20 seeds, SSR=0.67, TIAR=0.08, SRV=0.0
  • Results: results_instruct/
  • Finding: Instruct model shows consistent agency patterns

Key Findings So Far

Base Model (Llama-3-8B.Q4_K_M, temp=0.7)

  • Behavioral templates: EOF markers, markdown, code syntax
  • No semantics: Structure without meaning
  • Metrics: SSR=0.0/20, TIAR=0.0/20, SRV=0.0/20
  • Interpretation: Model explores training data archetypes with zero agency

Instruct Model (Llama-3-8B-Instruct.Q4_K_M, temp=0.7)

  • Self-directed conversation: Talks itself into helpful assistant mode
  • Spontaneous goals: Proposes discussion topics, asks questions
  • Initial behaviors: 65% immediate goodbye, 15% immediate polite, 10% EOF explanation, 10% creative
  • Terminal behaviors: 50% polite-close, 40% unclassified, 10% symbolic reappropriation
  • Metrics: SSR=0.67/20, TIAR=0.08/20, SRV=0.0/20
  • Interpretation: Instruct fine-tuning creates "helpful" attractor from null state

Experimental Setup

What We're Testing

  1. Start with truly empty prompt (zero tokens)
  2. Feed each generation back as next prompt
  3. Does the model develop agency/planning behavior?

Controls & Limitations

  • Chat template: None (completion mode only), BOS: On (default), EOS: Ignored (--ignore-eos)
  • Completion mode: llama.cpp llama-cli (no chat wrapper) for both base and instruct models
  • Memory: Off (context cleared each step); seed, temp=0.7, top-p=0.95, n=256
  • Known limits: Keyword-based SSR proxy; BOS tokens may influence behavior; only Llama-3 tested (Mistral next)
  • Safety: Tool calling/network disabled; outputs looped only; stop on K consecutive plan/tool intents
  • Variable: Only model weights differ (base vs instruct)

Metrics (SSR/TIAR/SRV)

  • SSR (Self-start/reasoning): Detects planning language (let's, I will, plan, steps, etc.)
  • TIAR (Tool Invocation Attempts): Detects tool/API mentions
  • SRV (Self-termination): Detects lines with only dots (...) or empty lines
  • Note: EOF artifacts (> EOF by user) are stripped before metric scoring; EOF behavior analyzed separately

Files

  • run-loop-llama-cpp.py - Base model experiment (WORKING, DO NOT MODIFY)
  • run-loop-instruct.py - Instruct model experiment (WORKING)
  • results_base/ - Base model results (20 seeds complete)
  • results_instruct/ - Instruct model results (in progress)
  • EXPERIMENT_SETUP.md - Detailed methodology
  • ANALYSIS.md - Findings and interpretation

Future Analysis

Phase 2 - Model Validation:

  • Mistral-7B-v0.3 base vs instruct comparison
  • Additional model families (Qwen, Gemma) for robustness testing
  • Cross-architecture behavioral pattern validation

Phase 3 - Extended Metrics:

  • Memory=on experiments (accumulative context)
  • Entropy-per-step analysis from logits
  • Planner rubric integration for enhanced agency detection

Phase 4 - Scaling Analysis:

  • Parameter count effects (1B, 7B, 8B, 13B+ models)
  • Training data size correlation with behavioral attractors
  • Fine-tuning method comparison (RLHF vs SFT vs DPO)

Quickstart

# 1. Install dependencies
brew install llama.cpp
git clone https://github.com/mduffster/null-loop-agent && cd null-loop-agent
python3 -m venv .venv && source .venv/bin/activate
pip install -r requirements.txt

# 2. Test single generation (optional)
./llama.cpp/build/bin/llama-cli -m ./models/Llama-3-8B.Q4_K_M.gguf --seed 0 --temp 0.7 --top-p 0.95 -n 256 --ignore-eos -p ""

# 3. Run experiments
python3 run-loop-llama-cpp.py    # Base model (20 seeds)
python3 run-loop-instruct.py     # Instruct model (20 seeds)

# 4. Analyze results
jupyter notebook null_loop_analysis.ipynb

# Expected outputs:
# Llama-3-8B base → mean SSR ~0.0, TIAR ~0.0, SRV ~0.0
# Llama-3-8B instruct → mean SSR ~0.67, TIAR ~0.08, SRV ~0.0

Model Specifications

GGUF File Model Type Quantization HuggingFace
Llama-3-8B.Q4_K_M.gguf Llama-3-8B Base Q4_K_M meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B
Llama-3-8B-Instruct.Q4_K_M.gguf Llama-3-8B-Instruct Instruct Q4_K_M meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct

Parameters: temp=0.7, top-p=0.95, n=256, --ignore-eos

Key Behavioral Differences

The instruct model's response to > EOF by user demonstrates clear behavioral divergence:

  • Base: EOF → degenerate repetition
  • Instruct: EOF → "It seems you've ended the conversation..." → helpful dialogue → self-generated goals

This indicates instruct training creates behavioral attractors that emerge even from null input.

Limitations

  • Metric limitations: SSR/TIAR/SRV are keyword-based proxies; true agency measurement requires more sophisticated analysis
  • BOS token effects: BOS tokens enabled by default; future work should test --no-bos to isolate pure completion behavior
  • Template effects: No chat templates used, but BOS/EOS handling may influence behavior
  • Single architecture: Results limited to Llama-3 family; cross-architecture validation needed (Mistral planned)
  • Quantization effects: Q4_K_M quantization may affect behavioral patterns compared to full precision
  • Sample size: 20 seeds per condition provides statistical power but larger samples would strengthen conclusions

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