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Analysing site shows robot and sitmap not present #32

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ajaffarali opened this issue Mar 2, 2016 · 19 comments
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Analysing site shows robot and sitmap not present #32

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@ajaffarali
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I'm using https://www.site-analyzer.com/ to test my site and one of the thing's its reporting is that there is no robots.txt file or a sitemap. I believe I've selected all the right options in SEOMatic to have these generated. Here is a sample page: http://ww2.tbreak.com/companies/apple

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khalwat commented Mar 2, 2016

What web server are you using? Make sure there aren't any rules that might not give Craft a chance to see the request.

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Using Digital Ocean with Ubuntu and Server Pilot - I believe it's running
Apache/Nginx with PHP7

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What web server are you using? Make sure there aren't any rules that might
not give Craft a chance to see the request.


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khalwat commented Mar 2, 2016

Yeah, so make sure there isn't something like this in the site file for Nginx:

location = /robots.txt  { access_log off; log_not_found off; }

That would cause Craft to never see the request.

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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

Abbas, let me know what you uncover. I strongly suspect that this is server configuration issue, but potentially, it could also be a misunderstanding.

The webpage you pointed me to is http://ww2.tbreak.com/companies/apple -- robots.txt should only appear at the root, so http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt assuming that's the domain we're talking about here?

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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

I just ran the tool you mentioned on my site (which uses SEOmatic) and it found the robots.txt just fine; I wonder if it isn't some kind of server configuration, as mentioned above?

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Thanks for the follow up

Yes, the robots.txt should appear in the root but it's not. Checked with the server guys and thus was their response:

ServerPilot does not block search engine robots by default in our configuration. You should not need to make any changes to Nginx.

If the plugin is not creating the robots.txt file I would recommend verifying the files permissions of your various app files, which could prevent the plugin from creating the necessary files.

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Abbas, let me know what you uncover. I strongly suspect that this is server configuration issue, but potentially, it could also be a misunderstanding.

The webpage you pointed me to is http://ww2.tbreak.com/companies/apple -- robots.txt should only appear at the root, so http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt assuming that's the domain we're talking about here?


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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

Well, the plugin doesn't create a robots.txt file -- what it does is it creates a route in Craft such that if there's an incoming request in Craft for robots.txt, SEOmatic handles it by routing it to a controller that renders the robots.txt as a template.

So I suspect that that's happening here is for some reason, Craft is never seeing the request. What about humans.txt? It looks like that IS showing up on your domain:

http://ww2.tbreak.com/humans.txt

...which is handled exactly the same way robots.txt is, so I really strongly believe this is a server setup issue. Have them check to see if the .conf file for your ServerPilot setup has a directive like this in it:

location = /robots.txt  { access_log off; log_not_found off; }

...which I think is in there by default on Nginx. It needs to be commented out or removed for it to work.

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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

Oh, by the way, you mentioned sitemap as well -- SEOmatic doesn't create a sitemap. There are a number of plugins that will do that for you, however.

It's on my "wish list" of things to implement, however.

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Would you mind taking a quick look at how the plugin is setup in Craft
before I approach the server guys again? I can pass you the CP login details
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Oh, by the way, you mentioned sitemap as well -- SEOmatic doesn't create a
sitemap. There are a number of plugins that will do that for you, however.

It's on my "wish list" of things to implement, however.


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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

I wouldn't mind at all, but I don't think it's going to help... there really are not any settings for Robots.txt in SEOmatic. If humans.txt is working on your site (which it is) and robots.txt is not, then it is definitely a server configuration issue mentioned above. The exact same mechanism is used for both.

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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

^ You might want to delete or edit that comment, it's publicly visible.

Anyway, I logged in and fixed your SEO Keywords, but I don't see anything that's configured wrong. I just tested it, and it looks like your robots.txt is working right:

http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt

kotak:~ andrew$ curl -I http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Server: nginx
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 20:16:39 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Connection: keep-alive
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
X-Powered-By: Craft CMS
Set-Cookie: CraftSessionId=739346e89c0056d2d56400716c3869e3; path=/; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: 319e541db533da347dd78ecfd2c16496RatingHistory=5b231bf4125703e620453cbf076a44e08346046ds%3A48%3A%221c7e61a82810504c62c0aafe23ca7e48fc082507YTowOnt9%22%3B; expires=Wed, 04-Mar-2026 06:24:19 GMT; Max-Age=315569260; path=/; HttpOnly
Location: http://ww2.tbreak.com/login

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Weird- site-analyzer.com is still not finding it. Even I'm getting a 404
when trying to load http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:17 AM khalwat notifications@github.com wrote:

^ You might want to delete or edit that comment, it's publicly visible.

Anyway, I logged in and fixed your SEO Keywords, but I don't see anything
that's configured wrong. I just tested it, and it looks like your
robots.txt is working right:

http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt

kotak:~ andrew$ curl -I http://ww2.tbreak.com/robots.txt
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Server: nginx
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 20:16:39 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Connection: keep-alive
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
X-Powered-By: Craft CMS
Set-Cookie: CraftSessionId=739346e89c0056d2d56400716c3869e3; path=/; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: 319e541db533da347dd78ecfd2c16496RatingHistory=5b231bf4125703e620453cbf076a44e08346046ds%3A48%3A%221c7e61a82810504c62c0aafe23ca7e48fc082507YTowOnt9%22%3B; expires=Wed, 04-Mar-2026 06:24:19 GMT; Max-Age=315569260; path=/; HttpOnly
Location: http://ww2.tbreak.com/login


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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

aahhhhhh, I know what it is :)

You're using an old version of SEOmatic that had a bug in it where robots.txt would not display unless you were logged in.

Update to the latest (1.1.6 was just released today) and it'll be fixed. Sorry for the run-around, I completely forgot. I should have checked the version of SEOmatic you were running.

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BAM- upgraded and now it seems to work.

BTW, do you have any plans to add Microdata or redirections to your plugin.
I think both of them could come in handy.

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aahhhhhh, I know what it is :)

You're using an old version of SEOmatic that had a bug in it where
robots.txt would not display unless you were logged in.

Update to the latest (1.1.6 was just released today) and it'll be fixed.
Sorry for the run-around, I completely forgot. I should have checked the
version of SEOmatic you were running.


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khalwat commented Mar 3, 2016

There's already a TON of micro data in the plugin -- what specifically do you mean?

As for redirects, I thought about it, but there are some very good (free) plugins out there already that do it well. What would you use it for?

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Maybe I haven't set it up correctly but for example, here is a review with
a final rating but Google is showing that rating in rich snipets
http://ww2.tbreak.com/reviews/sennheiser-momentum-2.0 or here is a product
page which is again missing microdata
http://ww2.tbreak.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s7

With regards to redirects, we're shifting from Wordpress to Craft and some
posts are getting their URL structure changed. Would have loved to be able
to map out old vs new URLs within your SEO module so that it sets redirects.

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There's already a TON of micro data in the plugin -- what specifically do
you mean?

As for redirects, I thought about it, but there are some very good (free)
plugins out there already that do it well. What would you use it for?


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khalwat commented Mar 4, 2016

As for "missing" micro data, are you using a custom template for rendering the SEO meta or something? Because there's a bunch of metadata missing from your site that by default is there.

For redirecting:

https://github.com/davist11/craft-reroute

https://github.com/rkingon/Craft-Plugin--Redirect-Manager

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Looks like I had created a template in SEOMatic when testing- I've deleted
it but still not seeing microdata. Or are you talking about HTML templates?

Thanks for the links to the redirects.

Also, I've added my google analytics ID but it's not tracking pages. Dev mode is off.

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As for "missing" micro data, are you using a custom template for rendering
the SEO meta or something? Because there's a bunch of metadata missing from
your site that by default is there.

For redirecting:

https://github.com/davist11/craft-reroute

https://github.com/rkingon/Craft-Plugin--Redirect-Manager


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khalwat commented Mar 4, 2016

When you call SEOmatic, it should be just:

{% hook 'seomaticRender' %}

Make sure you are not doing this anywhere:

{% set seomaticTemplatePath = 'path/template' %}

You're still using some kind of custom template that you must have removed a bunch of the SEO from.

This is the same reason why Google Analytics is not included.

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