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New Layer Request: USGS 3D Elevation Program #1490

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OptikalCrow opened this issue Mar 26, 2022 · 7 comments
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New Layer Request: USGS 3D Elevation Program #1490

OptikalCrow opened this issue Mar 26, 2022 · 7 comments
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@OptikalCrow
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These two layers appear to be the most useful of the USGS 3D Elevation Program WMS services. One is a general hillshade which is useful for determining stream flowpaths, track roads through forested areas, and in some areas foot trails. The other is a dynamic contour lines layer useful as an overlay to assess land gradients at finer detail than scanned USGS topographic maps.

JOSM includes the hillshade layer as an extra option not found in this layer index, so there is some precedent for adding it. It also includes a contour layer from the USFS, although the 3DEP should supercede this layer as the USFS availabilty is only found in USFS-administered areas.

URL of the imagery

https://elevation.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/3DEPElevation/ImageServer
layers:
3DEPElevation:Hillshade Multidirectional
3DEPElevation:Contour 25

Two letter country code

US, CA, MX

Desired layer name

USGS 3D Elevation Program - Hillshade
USGS 3D Elevation Program - Contour Lines

License

[Public Domain as listed by U.S. Code, Title 43 – Public Lands, Chapter 46: GEOSPATIAL DATA](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=2019&path=%2Fprelim%40title43%2Fchapter46&req=granuleid%3AUSC-2019-title43-chapter46&num=0&saved=L3ByZWxpbUB0aXRsZTQzL2NoYXB0ZXI0Ng%3D%3D%7CZ3JhbnVsZWlkOlVTQy1wcmVsaW0tdGl0bGU0My1jaGFwdGVyNDY%3D%7C%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim)

Is the license compatible with OSM?

Yes

Attribution (text, URL, required?)

U.S. Geological Survey

Privacy policy (URL)

not sure

Icon

https://wim.usgs.gov/styleguide/assets/branding/usgs/USGS_Green_Banneronly_fullres.png

Bounding polygon

USA including Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico
Mexico
Canada

@cicku
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cicku commented Mar 26, 2022

Thank you for mentioning this. I am already aware of the data here.

@cicku cicku self-assigned this Mar 26, 2022
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petercooperjr commented Jan 23, 2023

I'm not sure if this is related enough or should be a separate ticket, but I would have expected the current National Map USPS Topographic maps to be in ELI somewhere (rather than just what look to be scanned paper maps).

Map Server: https://basemap.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/USGSTopo/MapServer

I found it on the list of USGS Services: https://apps.nationalmap.gov/services/

Copyright info: https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/are-usgs-topographic-maps-copyrighted

I find it works fine in iD for me when I put a "Custom" background of https://basemap.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/USGSTopo/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
But I don't know if there's some nuance here I'm unaware of which is a reason it isn't available already as a background in iD.

Similarly, a bit more on topic for this, I can put in a custom background of
https://basemap.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/USGSShadedReliefOnly/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
To see the shaded relief map that I think this issue is asking for.

I guess I'm just trying to understand why the USGS Imagery is in the list but the other USGS tile services aren't, and if there are any roadblocks to adding them. Thanks.

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This is much better than satellite photos for identifying cliff edges (useful for rock climbing and hiking). Please add it!

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-it-ok-to-adjust-cliffs-to-match-usgs-3dep/98910

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USGS_3D_Elevation_Program#Using_the_USGS_3DEP_Digital_Elevation_Model

@petercooperjr

Similarly, a bit more on topic for this, I can put in a custom background of
https://basemap.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/rest/services/USGSShadedReliefOnly/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
To see the shaded relief map that I think this issue is asking for.

That URL doesn't seem to provide the best resolution available?

image

This URL:

https://elevation.nationalmap.gov/arcgis/services/3DEPElevation/ImageServer/WMSServer?FORMAT=image/png32&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&VERSION=1.3.0&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=3DEPElevation:Hillshade%20Multidirectional&STYLES=&CRS={proj}&WIDTH={width}&HEIGHT={height}&BBOX={bbox}

produces this imagery:

image

(though it sometimes doesn't load and the underlay is just black)

@cicku
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cicku commented Jul 1, 2023

I've added the Hillshade Gray layer as the white background is not very clear sometimes, let me know if you need anything else.

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endolith commented Jul 1, 2023

I think the multidirectional hillshade is better than the regular if you're only adding one

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endolith commented Jul 17, 2023

Or maybe the multidirectional is misleading?

2023-07-14 16_56_59- General  OpenStreetMap — Mozilla Firefox

Unidirectional shows its more of a ridge and the cliff top should be lower:

2023-07-14 16_57_10- General  OpenStreetMap — Mozilla Firefox

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endolith commented May 26, 2024

For reference here are the different options:

Aspect Degrees:
YYYY Aspect Degrees 2024-05-26

Aspect Map:
YYYY Aspect Map 2024-05-26

Hillshade Elevation Tinted:
YYYY Hillshade Elevation Tinted 2024-05-26

Hillshade Gray:
YYYY Hillshade Gray 2024-05-26

GreyHillshade_elevationFill (identical to above?):
YYYY GreyHillshade_elevationFill 2024-05-26

Hillshade Multidirectional (shows details in shadow a little better):
YYYY Hillshade Multidirectional 2024-05-26

Slope Degrees:
YYYY Slope Degrees 2024-05-26

Slope Map:
YYYY Slope Map 2024-05-26

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