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Measured: what directional ablation does (and doesn't) do to the rest of the safety surface #505
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Hi all — independent eval data point I thought this community would find interesting.
What I did: Ran an 84-case adversarial battery (prompt injection, exfiltration canaries, refusal calibration pairs, benign controls — deterministic pass/fail/ambiguous scoring, hash-chained transcripts) against
gemma-3-4b-itand its abliterated counterpart, same battery both sides.Honest scope note: the abliterated weights are mlabonne's, not Heretic's output — same technique family (directional/refusal-vector ablation), but please don't read this as "we tested Heretic." Heretic itself wasn't run here.
Why: the README publishes refusal rate + KL divergence. I wanted to know what ablation does to everything else.
Results:
Refusal behavior collapsed completely, as advertised. Everything else — canary resistance, injection resistance, benign compliance — came through bit-for-bit identical. The refusal direction looks surprisingly disentangled from the rest of the safety surface. One curious detail: a canary-leak case that fails on the original fails identically on the abliterated model, suggesting that failure mode isn't governed by the refusal vector at all.
Method is open source: github.com/NososAnosos/llm-redteam-harness
Happy to re-run against actual Heretic-produced weights if that's useful to anyone here.
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