PEP 541 Request: IMATH

[cary-ilm]

Project to be claimed

IMATH: https://pypi.org/project/imath

Your PyPI username

cary-ilm: https://pypi.org/user/cary-ilm

Reasons for the request

I am the Steering Committee Project Chair for OpenEXR, the professional-grade image storage format of the motion picture industry, and Director of Engineering at Industrial Light & Magic. Our project also maintains Imath, a C++ library and python module of vector/matrix operations used throughout the motion picture industry. Imath and OpenEXR were first developed in the late 1990’s at ILM, open-sourced in 2003, and adopted by the Academy Software Foundation in 2019.

The python bindings for Imath have been used publicly for over 20 years, but only distributed in source-code form. We have recently decided to provide a PyPI distribution for them, but the “Imath” PyPI project name is already taken.

The existing project at https://pypi.org/project/imath appears to not be in use. The python module appears to be only a stub with no substantial functionality, and the associated GitHub repo at https://github.com/innovata/imath no longer exists.

I’ve attempted to contact the project owner listed on the PyPI project page (iinnovata@gmail.com) three times but received no reply. I looked through other GitHub repositories owned by that same user account and found reference to a second email address (jonghyuk.lee@3ds.com) in the git logs, which I also attempted to contact but received no reply.

We would very much like to provide the Imath package with the name “Imath”, as it has commonly been known for 20 years, and since it appears that no one is gaining benefit from the current Imath, we respectfully request to be given ownership of that PyPI project.

Maintenance or replacement?

Replacement

Source code repositories URLs

The GitHub repository listed at https://pypi.org/project/imath/ (https://github.com/innovata/imath) no longer exists.

The GitHub repository of our proposed replacement is: https://github.com/AcademySoftwareFoundation/imath

Contact and additional research

Attached are 4 email messages attempting to contact the project owner, also reproduced inline below:

1. First attempted contact, Oct 5, 2023:

Cary Phillips cary@ilm.com
Thu, Oct 5, 2023, 11:45 AM
to iinnovata@gmail.com

Hi,

I chair the steering committee for OpenEXR, the professional-grade image storage format of the motion picture industry, one component of which is Imath, the C++ and python library of 2D and 3D vector, matrix, and math operations common to computer graphics, originally developed in the late 1990's at Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm, but now maintained by the Academy Software Foundation. Imath has long provided python bindings, but only in source code form. We'd like to provide a PyPI package for Imath, but I see that you already have a package with the same name. Your package doesn't seem to be active. Would you be willing to let us take that package name for our Imath bindings? We could, of course, choose a different name, although we'd much prefer to use the Imath name.

Thanks,

• Cary

2. Second attempt, October 29, 2023

Cary Phillips cary@ilm.com
Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 10:57 AM
to iinnovata@gmail.com

Hi,

I chair the steering committee for OpenEXR, the professional-grade image storage format of the motion picture industry, one component of which is Imath, the C++ and python library of 2D and 3D vector, matrix, and math operations common to computer graphics, originally developed in the late 1990's at Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm, but now maintained by the Academy Software Foundation. Imath has long provided python bindings, but only in source code form. We'd like to provide a PyPI package for Imath, but I see that you already have a package with the same name. Your package doesn't seem to be active. Would you be willing to let us take that package name for our Imath bindings? We could, of course, choose a different name, although we'd much prefer to use the Imath name.

Thanks,

• Cary

3. Third attempt, March 11, 2024

Cary Phillips cary@ilm.com
Mon, Mar 11, 10:33 AM
to iinnovata@gmail.com

Hi,

I chair the steering committee for OpenEXR, the professional-grade image storage format of the motion picture industry, one component of which is Imath, the C++ and python library of 2D and 3D vector, matrix, and math operations common to computer graphics, originally developed in the late 1990's at Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm, but now maintained by the Academy Software Foundation. Imath has long provided python bindings, but only in source code form. We'd like to provide a PyPI package for Imath, but I see that you already have a package with the same name. Your package doesn't seem to be active. Would you be willing to let us take that package name for our Imath bindings? We could, of course, choose a different name, although we'd much prefer to use the Imath name.

Thanks,

• Cary

4. Fourth attempt, March 12, 2024

Cary Phillips cary@ilm.com
Tue, Mar 12, 5:13 PM
to jonghyuk.lee@3ds.com

Hi, I'm hoping you can help me locate the owner of https://pypi.org/projects/imath. I've tried the author's email from the project page several times but gotten no response. I found your email associated with the innovata GitHub account and inferred that you may be associated with it.

I am director of engineering at Industrial Light & Magic, a division of Lucasfilm, in San Francisco, and I chair the steering committee for OpenEXR, the professional-grade image storage format of the motion picture industry. One component of the project is Imath, the C++ and python library of 2D and 3D vector, matrix, and math operations common to computer graphics, originally developed in the late 1990's at ILM, a division of Lucasfilm, but now maintained by the Academy Software Foundation. Imath has long provided python bindings, but only in source code form. We'd like to provide a PyPI package for Imath, but I see that package name is owned by innovata. The current imath package doesn't seem to be active. Would you be willing to let us take that package name for our Imath bindings? We could, of course, choose a different name, although we'd much prefer to use the Imath name.

Thank you!

• Cary

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[cary-ilm]

I'd still like to pursue this request. Is there anything I can do to expedite this approval? I have attempted once more to contact the owner, both directly and through the other contacts I've been able to identify as noted above, with no response.

The project appears to be completely abandoned.

[cary-ilm]

Pinging this again. We would appreciate suggestions about how to proceed. Thanks!

[Thespi-Brain]

Hi @cary-ilm,

We are working to contact the owner to determine if they're reachable and have sent them a courtesy message.

Final determination regarding project ownership will be made by the PyPI Administrators when the research process is complete.

[cary-ilm]

Thank you for the update! I would very much like to proceed with this.

[Thespi-Brain]

imath has been deemed invalid. Additionally, the owner did not respond back regarding the status of their project.

I recommend that the PyPI Admins release the name for future use.

[ewdurbin]

Added 'cary-ilm' as 'Owner' on 'imath'