[Question] Can we improve the first time experience?

[javiereguiluz]

Currently, when you execute symfony new my_project, a new empty app is installed and when browsing the URL suggested by the installer, you see a "Welcome Page".

With Symfony Flex, the message is similar:

... but you browse that URL and ...

The first thing you see about Symfony is an error page. Not a good experience at all!

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The solution is not that easy, because the "first time experience" varies a lot depending on what you want to do. The "Welcome Page" is a must if you are going to develop a normal web app ... but you don't need it if you are developing a console app or an API.

[sstok]

Can we detect if there are no routes at all (in the default AppKernel), and then show simple page with instructions to register routes?

About the Console, this is a complex one as the FrameworkBundle heavily depends on the HttpKernel, you would need to introduce something like a CliBundle and split-up the FrameworkBundle into smaller bundles/service-integrations, which thanks to Flex no longer should require to much configuring 😛

[guzzlefry]

What about installing a welcome-bundle by default that could be easily removed via compose rem welcome-bundle?

[sstok]

symfony/symfony#22637 (comment)

[fabpot]

Taken care of in symfony/symfony#24403