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How to avoid whatsapp ban #1686

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zenithanon opened this issue Jul 9, 2016 · 20 comments
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How to avoid whatsapp ban #1686

zenithanon opened this issue Jul 9, 2016 · 20 comments

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@zenithanon
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I have had 2 numbers banned from whatsapp in rapid succession. Its very infuriating and practically makes this library unusuable. How do we resolve and avoid this banning issue? Its extremely important.

Does anyone have tips on how to use whatsapp without getting banned?

@schoerg
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schoerg commented Jul 9, 2016

Don't spam. I don't know what I am doing differently, but I have not been banned. Using a new number since April this year.
(old one got reused because of prepaid number used again)

@zenithanon
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zenithanon commented Jul 9, 2016

I didnt spam anyone. I guess as soon as I got yowsup running, I started chatting with someone I knew in real who probably have the new number on his contacts list.

I didnt sync contacts too.

@zenithanon
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or how is your usage pattern like?

@zenithanon zenithanon changed the title How to avoid whatsapp banning How to avoid whatsapp ban Jul 9, 2016
@Pauldic
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Pauldic commented Jul 10, 2016

You can be more elaborate, I have intention integrating this project as part of HelpDesk web app. Customer care representatives are meant to respond to customers' query via yowsup, no group mails will be sent. But or more agent could be chatting with different users concurrently.  
I have been watching this project for few months now but rate of blocking issues been reported has been very discouraging. 
Could someone please explain if usage of this type could be seen as spam and subsequent blocking? I understood that WhatsApp officially discourage any use of its application out a mobile phone. 

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@schoerg
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schoerg commented Jul 10, 2016

@zenithanon people can write to yowsup (via two groups) and yowsup answers if the string that was sent is a command. Commands start with '!' in my case.
I have a 'real' number, no VoIP or such stuff. Also due to the writing in groups, I think I don't need to sync? But people ususally don't contact yowsup directly.

@Pauldic no commercial use allowed I think

@Gab0
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Gab0 commented Jul 10, 2016

@schoerg One thing you should never do is to send messages to people who don't have you in their contact list (non-group messages).
Your usage pattern seems ok, based on what you said.. much like what I have been doing.
Make sure you have the latest yowsup and axolotl modules from git.
Synching contacts seems a bad idea.

@sowerkoku
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sowerkoku commented Jul 14, 2016

whatsapp blocks all numbers that violates policies.

-message repeated.
-spam.
-for send messages to a contact not known or recorded.
-for send obscene or violent word in messages, profiles or states.
-for register new numbers from the same IP.
-for login from different devices with the same credentials.
-for detecting an automated system.
-After registering, maintaining connectionless more than one day (I'm not sure how long).

but my system is connected 24/7 offline and uses random time.

    def Msgless:
        double check
        time.sleep(random.randrange(1,3))
        double check blue

    def send_msg:
        double check
        time.sleep(random.randrange(2,5))
        Available Presence
        time.sleep(random.randrange(1,2))
        check blue
        time.sleep(random.randrange(1,2))

        STATE_TYPING
        time.sleep(random.randrange(2,3))
        send additional message
        time.sleep(random.randrange(5,7))
        STATE_TYPING
        time.sleep(random.randrange(2,3))
        STATE_PAUSED
        time.sleep(random.randrange(1,2))
        STATE_TYPING
        time.sleep(random.randrange(4,5))
        send msg
        STATE_PAUSED
        Available Presence
        time.sleep(random.randrange(1,2))
        Unavailable Presence

@schoerg
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schoerg commented Jul 14, 2016

Timing is not important, at least I don't use any random timings before sending.

Also WA does not know what you send.

@sowerkoku
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sowerkoku commented Jul 14, 2016

I read the policy and believe me there indicated.
a question assails me. encryption will be really sure?
or is it that spy whatsapp content? or just seeps states, nicknames and profiles.

the time is only preventive. It makes it more human and I prevent that is detected how a automated system. Prevention is better than cure.

@assegaf
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assegaf commented Jul 15, 2016

I agree with sending too many will be blocked, a warning first, second warning, then third or permanent block, fair usage.

But blocking IP .. and block even do nothing by Random, then We are going into trap, then everything is wrong, need to define what should be do or should be dont,

editted: decompile is not authorized

@Messiefee
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Hi @sowerkoku Your program still work??

@sowerkoku
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sowerkoku commented Jul 18, 2016

hi @Messiefee
if you ask for the bot, so it is. this up a few months ago.

@zenithanon
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@sowerkoku You have been banned

@sowerkoku
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@zenithanon
I don't understand what you say.
if you ask for if I had locks numbers ? The answer is yes. about 20 numbers :/

@schoerg
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schoerg commented Jul 22, 2016

It means you are banned from using Whatsapp with this number.
Oh sorry, not your number @sowerkoku.

@sowerkoku
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but if it is found that the number is being used from a valid app whatsapp by screenshots. enable it again.

@zenithanon
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@sowerkoku how can you do that?

@sowerkoku
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see here

@emmekappa
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-for login from different devices with the same credentials.

right now it's not possible since registration is only supported for Android env and login is supported just for S40.

@tgalal tgalal closed this as completed May 5, 2019
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i need to add member in my whatsapp group anyone do this i pay you. contect me ik007472@gmail.com

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