Some software are only visible on native search section

[sidalsolgun]

Describe the bug

For example I tried to install VSCodium from Bazaar but search results showed me nothing.

What did you expect to happen?

I expected to see VSCodium on Bazaar search results but it didn't.

Output of rpm-ostree status

I will fill here later once I have access to my computer with Aurora installed on it but I had this problem with secureblue too.

Output of groups

I will fill here later.

Extra information or context

I searched "VSCodium" on native KDE Plasma search instead of Bazaar after the issue and it showed "install VSCodium" and I pressed on it then it opened the page on Bazaar.

secureblue also had the same problem.

[renner0e]

Hmm, vscodium is not supposed to show up in bazaar because some features are completely broken, we have a dedicated DX image with vscode and vscodium from the ublue-os/tap can be used instead

[sidalsolgun]

It was working 100% perfectly.

Broken or not, decision belongs to the user not to developers.

Users are not 5 year old kids.

[inffy]

As we still keep the ”opionated image” slug, there are things that we still make decisions in some things.

[sidalsolgun]

Yeah but AFAIK these were "community-run" projects, no?

And community wants no censor/opinion when it comes to this issue.

[inffy]

Community != you. This has been implemented in all uBlue images (Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin) almost since Bazaar was implemented to our images.

This is also far from censorship as you like to see it. Also doesnt mean the “community” get to dictate our decisions. Yea they can offer opinions but the last decisions are always made by the maintainer team.

[sidalsolgun]

secureblue also had the same thing. I thought it was a bug.

[sidalsolgun]

Sorry, English is not my first language so what do you exactly mean?

Why don't we simply give user freedom of choice instead of limiting it?

[inffy]

Because some of these flatpaks are broken. So we have decide to filter them.

The blocklist https://github.com/get-aurora-dev/common/blob/main/system_files/shared/etc/bazaar/blocklist.yaml

[renner0e]

I can confirm that searching in plasma shows blocklisted applications but in bazaar does not. Vscodium and friends from the list above should not show up anywhere.

This means that there is likely either a bug in bazaar or perhaps krunner-bazaar. This still needs to be investigated.

EDIT: happens on gnome as well, likely not a krunner-bazaar bug
https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/bazaar/-/work_items/1913

The 2nd part of the story here is that yes we blocklist certain applications because they are broken one way or another and have better alternatives from brew. ujust bbrew

"Secretly" installing brew formulas from bazaar is also an option, we just don't expose them there right now, which we should do. (This is what bazzite does, it just needs some more extra considerations because we are using the official flatpak of bazaar which runs in a flatpak sandbox).

[sidalsolgun]

Well, all of these apps are just working, what you folks are doing is simply censorship.

[renner0e]

Well, all of these apps are just working, what you folks are doing is simply censorship.

We are not "censoring"/maintaining a blocklist for the love of the game.

There are legitimate issues with some IDEs packaged as flatpak due to them needing a rather broad system access and not being designed with flatpak as a distribution format or running in sandboxed environments in mind. If you still want to install them then you can use the flatpak cli.

Yes, the current situation sucks. The right people are aware of the issues and I'm certain things will get better in the future.

[sidalsolgun]

Like I said above, remove the blocklist/censorlist and leave the decision to the user.

[inffy]

No we will not remove it