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2024‐05‐17
Attendance (12): Alastair Campbell, Mike Gower, Bruce Bailey, Francis Storr, Patrick Lauke, Giacomo Petri, Dan Bjorge, Scott O'Hara, Filippo Zorzi, Gundala Neuman, Mike Gifford, Steve Faulkner.
Other AG WG activities competing for TF member bandwidth over the next few weeks:
- For Review: WCAG 3 Working Draft Outcomes
- WCAG2ICT on scheduled, and AG WG review anticipated in the next few weeks.
We gave ourselves a few minutes to reflect on Global Accessibility Awareness Day (which was yesterday) with a quick round-robin.
- Mike shared highlights from an internal IBM event.
- Bruce said USAB staff frequently get invitations to speak on GAAD. Please see USAB news article.
- Patrick reminded us that every day is Accessibility Day, and celebrated by taking the day off.
- Alastair participated in a three-day event, Virtua11y web accessibility and digital inclusion conference. Look for recording to get posted soon to the Nomensa YouTube channel.
- Scott celebrated getting some UK spelling into ARIA.
- Francis too the opportunity for some a11y evangelism.
- Dan appreciated a provocative demo by Cypress with its "test record" feature.
- Steve Faulkner joined our call to celebrate GAAD.
</s> - Mike Gifford enjoyed chairing an interesting panel.
- Giacomo gave a couple internal presentations on accessibility; as mindset and setting priories for testing.
We followed the standing, working from the default project board
On Tuesday, ten items sent to AG WG for REVIEW - WCAG 2 proposed changes (due by May 28). Some items in the Sent column have thumbs-up already. No thumbs-down. Nothing flagged for discussion.
None so far.
These will be queued up for an approval review by AG WG in a couple of weeks.
- Remove "1280 pixels wide" test step from F94 #3739 Implication is there is base default size. Change removes starting setting.
- Expand 1.4.10 Reflow note about 200% and breakpoints, add matching note to 1.4.4 Resize Text #2630 Edits are straightforward improvements to what is currently in Understanding. Illustrations would be welcomed, but those can be added as a subsequent Issue/PR. Some additions and clarifications were discussed. Please add questions or edits as you deem appropriate. Promoting to Ready for approval, but any TF should ask to move back to drafted if substantial edits or discussion needed.
- Remove failure technique F87 #3818 since CSS support is better. Moved to Ready for approval.
- Change "mobile devices" to "smartphones" #3776 Smaller edit so this can be closed. Dan agrees edit is closer to intent, but is normative (editorial) errata, and could be argued that example is expanding scope. Alastair noted that, canonically, abstracts are informative. Moved to Ready for approval.
- Small edit: Connect G214 and F97 as related techniques #3817 editorial correction. Scott reviewed and we moved to Ready for approval.
- Changes to 1.4.1 Use of Color understanding #1788 Giacomo has reviewed. Moved to Ready for approval
- Update left to side navigation for focus-not-obscured-minimum #3765 Straightforward edit by Avon. Patrick and Dan have reviewed. Moved to Ready for approval.
None.
1.4.1 Use of color: adding examples to understanding text #3717 Patrick and Francis volunteered to review and provide editorial. Focus Visible seems to have a low threshold for "visible" (or not). Bruce objected to nearly invisible color change being characterized as visible. Patrick noted we closed 2.4.7 Focus Visible - what counts as "visible"? #302 is closed. Much discussion, left in drafted.
- Patrick: Understanding needs to bring in the idea of user intent. The wording Giacomo used does not imply it needs to be always visible, so a disclosure etc would be ok too.
- Dan: That needs to be an erratum on the SC and not just a technique; I agree that it would be a reasonable exception to the SC, but I don’t think it is an exception and I don’t think a technique should invent exceptions
Tweak understanding for 1.2.3 and 1.2.5 #1790 regarding audio ducking. Patrick will continue to lead and asks for reviewers. Left in drafted.
Understanding "Pause, Stop, Hide": adding explanation of "automatic". #2906 closes issue 3863. PR needs more review as definition of "automatic" remains vague. Chat from call
When animation starts automatically with a change of focus, it's considered automatic. However, animation starting from pointer hover, scrolling, or changing a UI component is not automatic "Pause, Stop, Hide" applies to animations initiated by the web page. For animations triggered by user interactions, refer to
2.3.3 Animation from Interactions
- Suggestion to discern between animation that start on page load vs on-focus vs on-hover. Discussion if new SC animation from interaction 2.3.3 overlaps. Steve asked to propose threshold. PR staying in Drafted.
Added "Duplicated text" as a sufficient technique to fulfill the 1.4.5 Images of Text success criterion in the Understanding Document #3773 It is question if SC means text present at all times (on the page). Asking developers to replace images of text is something that improves accessibility, but duplicative text can be annoying. Discussion and no consensus on call, and left in Drafted.
Skipped.
Time permitting, items of interest to participants, including open discussions
Alastair asked that when creating new techniques, do not include a numbers. Just use the name/title for the technique. The numbering is assigned during the publication process.