Windowed mode by default?

[xycaleth]

I propose the game defaults to starting in windowed mode. There's nothing more frustrating than a game which loads of in your face at full screen which is then at the wrong screen resolution. This is an even bigger problem when shrinking your resolution causes all your open windows to be moved to the other monitor by the OS.

[CansecoDev]

I am coding a system resolution detector compatible with vanilla renderer, maybe commit later (my first commit on github).

Must say no to this. Im using dual monitor and understand you, but I prefer the hard way.

[CansecoDev]

Wait wait wait wait sir! Im stupid, this feature its already done.

Use "r_mode -2" on start. I lost 2 hours of work ..clap.

[Razish]

I agree. QtZ starts in a fullscreen, centered borderless window with functioning alt-tab. Good stuff.

[CansecoDev]

I like the idea of a borderless window, but that would cause a drop in performance?

[ensiform]

You can already do borderless windowed mode.

New cvars added with openjk (SP & MP)
r_centerWindow
r_noborder
r_mode -2

[ghost]

+1 agree! Also if the game has any sort of bug and stops loading or you get some sort of black screen, being in fullscreen makes it harder to get out of the situation (alt tab or task manager not always accesible).

[xycaleth]

So I take it the majority don't want the game to start in windowed mode? If not, I'll close the issue.

[ensiform]

I don't see what it helps. If you're using dual monitors its up to you to configure the game properly first.

[xycaleth]

From a beginners point of view, there is no setting up the game beforehand. You have to set it up correctly after you've launched the game. And by that time it's already caused havoc on their desktop :p

[ensiform]

And people with dual monitors are not beginners. Or you make -2 as the new default r_mode.

[ghost]

I agree to OP for making windowed the default, but also make r_mode -2 the default after doing r_fullscreen 1 without changing resolution settings.

[xycaleth]

And people with dual monitors are not beginners. Or you make -2 as the new default r_mode.

Having dual monitors doesn't mean you can't be a beginner to the game itself. What would the downsides of defaulting to windowed on first launch? I can't think of any.

[deveee]

"This is an even bigger problem when shrinking your resolution causes all your open windows to be moved to the other monitor by the OS."

It's problem with OS/window manager, not with game. Now I use only external display, but surely it's possible to manage windows properly.

Which game other than soltaire runs in windowed mode??? Have you ever run Need for Speed, Fifa, Half-life in windowed mode by default? Is there windowed mode at all?

So sorry, for me it's the regression.

[deepy]

Half-Life runs perfectly fine in windowed mode, it does not have borderless
but windowed mode works fine.

This is not a regression, original functionality still exists, it's just
the defaults that have changed, if you do not like these ones you can
change the settings.

[xycaleth]

All games that i have played have a window mode. While they might not default to full screen, they all have the option to not use it. Like @deepy said, the option to go to fullscreen has always and still is there. Existing players won't notice any difference as their saved settings will let them continue using what they preferred. It's only when the game is started for the first time that you will notice any difference.

[ensiform]

@xycaleth we aren't recommending most people use old jampconfig files. And it won't attempt to load jamp before converting to openjk.cfg