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opengl: provide swrast as fallback when no GL drivers are found #62177
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Why did you remove addOpenGLRunpath from libglvnd? Looks like an accident to me. |
Sorry, quick high-level question. I just realized, will this only work for non-NixOS Linux users without extra setup, due to the X11 nature of libGLX_mesa.so? Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't see any documentation telling macOS users to install XQuartz when they install nix. |
Sorry i should have commented on that. But leaving it here leads to an infinite recursion because libglvnd -> addOpenGLRunpath -> mesa -> libglvnd. I am pretty sure it is unnecessary because it does not link against libGL or libEGL at all. It is the library used to detect which driver vendor you will need.
Yeah swrast utilizes the xlib API to do rendering (see 1.4 What's the difference between "Stand-Alone" Mesa and the DRI drivers for a better explanation). This will only work on X11 systems. AFAICT you can't use swrast with XQuartz at all. This really isn't a problem on macOS because we can provide OpenGL.framework which contains Apple's proprietary libGL driver. Luckily, it supports all Apple hardware, and we don't have to mess with libglvnd at all. This will all become a huge problem though if apple ever decides to remove opengl support from macOS! I don't think even Apple would do that though. |
When no libGL drivers are found, we will fall back to “libGLX_mesa.so” which corresponds to the mesa “swrast” driver. This uses some X11 apis for rendering, and is suitable for many use cases of . This is still not as good as having the hardware drivers. Adding libGLX_mesa.so to the closures ends up adding about 1MB, which is signifcant but still acceptable. Fixes NixOS#62032 Fixes NixOS#62169 Fixes NixOS#9415
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My guess is that mesa needs some headers from |
Ok that sounds good! I will look into it now. Otherwise does this seems like an okay thing to do? Things like nixGL would still be useful if you need the real drivers, but the fallback should be okay for at least some use cases. |
I like a fallback in principle but we need to address the problem of people misunderstanding how their software works. Specifically: someone starts a graphics-heavy application from Nix on a non-NixOS system. It starts but is slow for some reason. As I feel people don't expect that to happen because wrong drivers were chosen; instead they think it's a problem with their current drivers or their video card is slow or something and will lose time debugging. This can be solved if a debug message of some sort is displayed (e.g. "Falling back to software rendering; if you are on non-NixOS you need nixGL to run applications with hardware rendering."); maybe a patch to |
I tried building glxinfo from this branch on debian, and I get the following result:
being somewhat a newbie on nix, I am missing something? (building with |
Any movement on this? |
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still important to me |
I would also like to use something like this for non-performance critical drawing (such as drawing graphs in mcrl2). I also ran into the cycle error that @baloo encountered. |
I marked this as stale due to inactivity. → More info |
not stale :( |
I marked this as stale due to inactivity. → More info |
sigh |
Stale is to describe that in over a year nothing happened in this PR which is correct. |
Thank you! |
No longer relevant as Mesa will automatically fall back to software drivers now. |
When no libGL drivers are found, we will fall back to “libGLX_mesa.so”
which corresponds to the mesa “swrast” driver. This uses some X11 apis
for rendering, and is suitable for many use cases of . This is still
not as good as having the hardware drivers. Adding libGLX_mesa.so to
the closures ends up adding about 1MB, which is signifcant but still
acceptable.
Fixes #62032
Fixes #62169
Fixes #9415
/cc @ambrop72 @edahlgren
Motivation for this change
Things done
sandbox
innix.conf
on non-NixOS)nix-shell -p nix-review --run "nix-review wip"
./result/bin/
)nix path-info -S
before and after)