Electrodiffusion impacts delta range #7
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Hi @EugenMasherov, I zapped your paper translated in English. I did not find it 'poorly edited' maybe you are too modest (and patient, I can tell). I found that many of what you say is what I would say as well but with less clarity and confidence. I like the elegant introduction cerebrating 100 years of human scalp EEG work by Berger, then the subsequently raising question as "The Crisis of the Unitary Concept of Postsynaptic Potentials as the Source of EEG" Yes, after all, that is what interests me: if post-synaptic potential is NOT everything, then what do we have? Well, it is actually also related to 1/f-genesis, but I can list these works that predicted and demonstrated contribution of suprathreshold activities in contrast to conventional subthreshold membrane theory (which EFB is based on). Reimann MW, Anastassiou CA, Perin R, Hill SL, Markram H, Koch C. 2013. A biophysically detailed model of neocortical local field potentials predicts the critical role of active membrane currents. Neuron. 79:375-390. DOI: 10.1016/j.neuron.2013.05.023, PMID: 23889937, PMCID: PMC3732581 Murakami S, Okada Y. 2006. Contributions of principal neocortical neurons to magnetoencephalography and electroencephalography signals. J Physiol. 575: 925-936. DOI: 10.1113/jphysiol.2006.105379, PMID: 16613883, PMCID: PMC1995687 But I'm really not ready to understand the seemingly sinusoidal signals like alpha. 'Thalamocortical dysrhythmia' shifts the alpha peak to the theta peak, as Llinas and colleagues argued, but what does that mean and where is it regulated, and how? |
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Jorge Riera pointed me to a series of works by Gaute Einevoll, saying that his controversial discovery of 'monopole' turned out years later to be due to electrodiffusion.
Roughly speaking, there are two major contributors to the extracellular space potentials (according to Torbjørn's work; Ness et al., 2022).
The former is the main mechanism in convention. For example, in Electric Fields of the Brain (2006) by Nunez and Srinivasan only explains this factor. The second one is present only during a transient phase, during which extracellular space shows non-ohmic behavior.
As you can see in screenshots below, electrodiffusion takes a form of monopole (i.e., all blue in difference) and impacts below delta range.
Solbrå A, Bergersen AW, van den Brink J, Malthe-Sørenssen A, Einevoll GT, Halnes G. 2018. A Kirchhoff-Nernst-Planck framework for modeling large scale extracellular electrodiffusion surrounding morphologically detailed neurons. PLoS Comput Biol. 14:e1006510. DOI: 10.1371/journal.pcbi.1006510, PMID: 30286073, PMCID: PMC6191143
ECS, extracellular space; KNP, Kirchhoff-Nernst-Planck (i.e., a model with electrodiffusion); VC, volume conductor (i.e., without electrodiffusion)
Halnes G, Mäki-Marttunen T, Keller D, Pettersen KH, Andreassen OA, Einevoll GT. 2016. Effect of ionic diffusion on extracellular potentials in neural tissue. PLoS Comput Biol. 12:e1005193. DOI: 10.1371/journal.pcbi.1005193, PMID: 27820827, PMCID: PMC5098741
Selected other papers good for reading
Riera JJ, Ogawa T, Goto T, Sumiyoshi A, Nonaka H, Evans A, Miyakawa H, Kawashima R. 2012. Pitfalls in the dipolar model for the neocortical EEG sources. J Neurophysiol. 108:956-975. DOI: 10.1152/jn.00098.2011, PMID: 22539822
Destexhe A, Bedard C. 2012. Do neurons generate monopolar current sources? Journal of neurophysiology. 108:953-955. DOI: 10.1152/jn.00357.2012
Ness TV, Halnes G, Næss S, Pettersen KH, Einevoll GT. 2022. Computing Extracellular Electric Potentials from Neuronal Simulations. Adv Exp Med Biol. 1359:179-199. DOI: 10.1007/978-3-030-89439-9_8, PMID: 35471540
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