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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #309, 18 June 2026" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Caterina Doglioni, Ruslan Mashinistov, Claire Antel, Joshua Isaacson, Eduardo Rodrigues, Saptaparna Battacharya, Michel Hernandez Villanueva, Peter Fackeldey |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Christian Wessel, Maarten van Veghel, Alexander Moreno, Stefan Roiser |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +## News, general matters, announcements |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +### INFRA-DEV/TECH season of proposals just concluded |
| 15 | + |
| 16 | +Two proposals relevant for HSF: |
| 17 | + - PSENTRIC (HORIZON-INFRA-2026-DEV-01-02), follow-up of ESCAPE (<https://projectescape.eu/>) and including a broader astronomy community and analytical physics facilities (Caterina Doglioni and Graeme Stewart as contacts) |
| 18 | + - OSCARS2 (HORIZON-INFRA-2026-01-EOSC-01), follow up of OSCARS (<https://oscars-project.eu/science-clusters>) with HSF involvement for training and affiliated project guidelines (Stefan Roiser and Caterina Doglioni as contacts) |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +One letter of support for HORIZON-INFRA-2026-TECH-01-01 circulated on HSF Forum mailing list last week. |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +### Steering Group & Advisory Group |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +#### WLCG/HSF workshop |
| 25 | + |
| 26 | +- Co-organising the next **WLCG/HSF Workshop**, 2-6 November 2026 in Bologna: Converged on draft schedule of HSF parallel sessions. |
| 27 | + - Anticipate a call for contributions! |
| 28 | + - We are still (for a bit) looking for conveners for the HSF parallel sessions. Please get in touch (very soon) with the SG if you're interested. |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +Plan for the near future: |
| 31 | + - online agenda version by the end of the month |
| 32 | + - finalising the conveners - we will send specific invitations, open a call for abstracts as well at the beginning of July |
| 33 | + - coordination with WLCG on environmental sustainability needed (Caterina/Eduardo will follow up). |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +#### Advisory group |
| 36 | + |
| 37 | +The ePIC collaboration is now part of the advisory group. |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software |
| 40 | + |
| 41 | +Status at <https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/projects/projects.html> - **6** projects affiliated. |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +Reviews in progress, being finalised: |
| 44 | +- NoPayloadDB Conditions Database |
| 45 | + |
| 46 | +Status: reviewers busy, but no other showstoppers identified so far. |
| 47 | + |
| 48 | +Other potential projects: |
| 49 | + - ACTS: Caterina will email the SG to find out who is already in contact |
| 50 | + - Herwig (we already have Madgraph/Pythia) - we will hear from Christian Gutschow and James Whitehead (MCNet reps). |
| 51 | + - Phoenix - the author is happy to join, the SG will look for reviewers |
| 52 | + - Rivet - Caterina will follow up with authors next week |
| 53 | + |
| 54 | +SG will find volunteers to contact these projects from GSoC list of projects this year: |
| 55 | + - Clad |
| 56 | + - Omnifold (Saptaparna will contact authors) |
| 57 | + - PODIO (future collider frameworks - Michel will contact authors) |
| 58 | + |
| 59 | +Do not hesitate to discuss around you to identify relevant projects/libraries that could engage with the affiliation programme. AA conveners are in an excellent position to help us identify which projects to prioritise to join the affiliation programme. |
| 60 | + |
| 61 | +### AI in contributions to HSF repositories |
| 62 | + |
| 63 | +*Feedback still welcome:* So far HSF repositories do not provide any statement on AI-powered/-helped contributions, and we are starting to get some. On occasions we can be flooded by not-to-useful contributions. |
| 64 | + |
| 65 | +This year an "AI statement" is strongly suggested in GSoC proposals. We should do something similar. |
| 66 | + |
| 67 | +There is an ongoing discussion at <https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/issues/1919>. |
| 68 | + |
| 69 | +**Q: Should we think of a code of conduct/guidelines?** |
| 70 | + |
| 71 | +Suggestion to update the [website how-to](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/howto-website.html) with a statement on AI and how we will be dealing with "spam". |
| 72 | + |
| 73 | +Following the LHCC recommendation (from [previous minutes](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/2026/06/04/coordination.html)): |
| 74 | + |
| 75 | +_[The LHCC] Encourages the HSF to continue the open discussion around AI and AI-assisted technologies and to develop a policy framework for their application within HEP software. Additionally, it recommends that the HSF assumes a leading role in the coordination of training initiatives focused on these new technologies._ |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +Decision taken to start a public discussion towards (1) loose guidelines on AI-assisted coding in common software (2) common training that collaborations can build on. |
| 78 | + |
| 79 | +Plan, to be taken on by Claire, Michel, Caterina: |
| 80 | +- have an HSF meeting on July 29th, 15:30-17:30 |
| 81 | +- send a "save the date" co-organise the meeting with anyone else interested in the topic, namely [EuCAIF Fair & Sustainable WG](https://eucaif.org/activities/), [Interexperiment ML working group at CERN](https://iml.web.cern.ch/), [EVERSE project](https://everse.software/) and [RSQKit](https://everse.software/RSQKit/), [“Towards a National-Scale AI Collaboration in HEP” US blueprint workshop](https://indico.flatironinstitute.org/event/4120/). |
| 82 | +- discuss the plan for the meeting with the SG via e-mail the week of 22.06 before sending the announcement |
| 83 | + |
| 84 | +Points and links raised during the discussion in the coordination meeting: |
| 85 | + - Michel: Belle2 would be interested in the HSF being the contact point for responsible use of AI. |
| 86 | + - Claire: "using LLM" tutorials in ATLAS don't feature responsible use of AI, but there are [slides from IRIS-HEP]( https://indico.cern.ch/event/1686249/contributions/7130122/attachments/3294175/5891009/LLM101-IRISHEP.pdf) |
| 87 | + - Michel: training events in BNL asked for best practices in use of AI, and we put some slides together based on experiences: [AI-assisted code, Remarks & discussion on best practices](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1683420/timetable/#b-670574-remarks-on-ai-assiste) |
| 88 | + - Caterina: the research software community has been thinking about this, see e.g. <http://arxiv.org/abs/2510.22254> and <https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20321134>. There are also CERN guidelines <https://home.cern/general-principles-use-ai-cern/> |
| 89 | + |
| 90 | +### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum |
| 91 | + |
| 92 | +Planned HSF seminars: |
| 93 | + - [24th June (next week)](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1692605/): Seminar on Software Packaging - organised by Software Tools & Packaging AA. |
| 94 | + - Cool agenda hosting multiple speakers. |
| 95 | + - [22nd July](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1698017/): Seminar on "Green Software Engineering" by Michael Sparks, Manchester. |
| 96 | + - Note: Exceptionally not last Wednesday of the month. |
| 97 | + - [30th Sept](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1689368/): Seminar on "assessing sustainability of AI" by Sophia Wilson ([SAINTS Lab](https://saintslab.github.io/), University of Copenhagen). |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +(Thanks to the activity groups for coming to us with seminar ideas and speakers!) |
| 100 | +HSF seminar conveners are reachable at <mailto:hsf-seminar-conveners@googlegroups.com>. |
| 101 | +Please send your suggestions for next seminars. |
| 102 | + |
| 103 | +## Activities Updates |
| 104 | + |
| 105 | +### GSoC 2026 |
| 106 | + |
| 107 | +Projects have started, progressing. |
| 108 | + |
| 109 | +### Software Training |
| 110 | + |
| 111 | +- Past Events |
| 112 | + - HSF Software basics @ BNL and Fermilab, targeting summer students who have little experience and join every year. Supported by management, very well attended (120 students, good reception). |
| 113 | + * BNL: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1683420> |
| 114 | + * Fermilab: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1686249/> |
| 115 | + |
| 116 | +- Next Events |
| 117 | + - Next HEP C++ course 12-16 October (advanced edition), <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1689553/> , registration to open before summer |
| 118 | + |
| 119 | +### Physics Generators |
| 120 | + |
| 121 | +From last meeting: Pursue idea of "sustainability reports" by generator groups. Pythia would volunteer to give the first such report. This will be followed up by the generators conveners and Caterina. |
| 122 | + |
| 123 | +### PyHEP |
| 124 | + |
| 125 | +- [PyHEP.dev 2026](https://indico.nikhef.nl/event/7873/) will be held at Nikhef Amsterdam, September 7-9. |
| 126 | +- [PyHEP.dev 2026] Indico almost ready (registration page is there now; only missing: local recommendations). Announcement currently being drafted. |
| 127 | +- Sep 8 2026 (during PyHEP.dev): Special 2h seminar talk by us at Nikhef about PyHEP activities |
| 128 | + |
| 129 | +### JuliaHEP |
| 130 | + |
| 131 | +- [JuliaHEP 2026](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1660753/) will be held at MPI Munich, October 19-23. [Abstract submission](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1660753/abstracts/) and [registration](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1660753/registrations/126987/) are already open! |
| 132 | +- JuliaCon 2026 - JuliaHEP Mini-Symposium - Julia for Nuclear and Elementary Particle Physics: From Precision Science to High-Performance Tools. Scheduled for the Wednesday Morning (Aug 12). |
| 133 | + |
| 134 | +## AOB |
| 135 | + |
| 136 | +Do not hesitate to get in touch with the SG if you have/know of events useful to add to the HSF calendar. |
| 137 | +The calendar is used by very many to check for available dates, constraints, and plan events. Thank you in advance. |
| 138 | + |
| 139 | +### HSF Promotional Poster |
| 140 | + |
| 141 | +Sapta has a poster to promote the HSF. There is one version [here](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1606598/), but please contact her for the latest version. |
| 142 | + |
| 143 | +### Physical Constants / HEPdata Library |
| 144 | + |
| 145 | +There is now an early "proof of concept" version: [hep-constants](https://github.com/HSF/hep-constants). Some generally positive feedback was received, but no further development yet. |
| 146 | + |
| 147 | +### Next Meeting |
| 148 | + |
| 149 | +The next coordination meeting will be on July 2nd. |
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