Ugrade Sagetv 32bit to 64 bit

[jdaminc]

Back it 2017 I rebuilt my Sagetv server. Originally I used the 64 bit version, but I couldn't get my USB UIRT to work with it, and ended up using the 32 bit version of Sagetv to get it to work. Since then, I've stopped using the USB UIRT on my server. My big question is... Can the 32 bit be upgraded to 64 bit just by installing the 64 bit install, or do I have to rebuild it using the required files to retain all the Sagetv information thats on my 32 bit version?
I'm thinking the 32 bit version could also be my slow down in recent years, and I also saw that my java heap is set to 1024 with 12 gig of ram installed

I'm still using windows 7 64 bit OS

Thanks,
Jerry

[Ugadata]

First thing is, Do you backup your System? Not just the Sage directory but the entire system.

It probably isn't going to be as easy as just running the Sage Installer. Just running the 64 bit Sage Installer will install a second instance of Sage (i.e. you will have both 32 & 64 bit installed)

Keep in mind that on Windows 64 OS installs, 32 bit programs are installed in the 'C:\Program Files (x86)' and 64 bit programs are installed to 'C:\Program Files'.
This makes just installing 64 bit Sage over the top of a Sage 32 bit directory tricky due to files paths in some of Sages property files. It is possible to edit these property files and change the file paths. I don't remember all the file names off hand but one of them is for the plug-ins and the most obvious is the main Sage Property file.

You will also need to install 64 bit Java, 64 bit LAV filters (or 64 bit version of the codec/filters you use), and it is suggested to use 64 bit OpenDCT (if you use OpenDCT).

There is some discussion of this in the old forum.

[jdaminc]

I dont back up anything on my server. I think I remember once switching over to 64 bit a long time ago... I thought I just saved my Sage files, uninstalled the 32 bit ver.... installed the 64 bit, and put the files back in to make everything run like before....but it was so long ago, I cant be sure it was Actually Sagetv I did it to....

[KryptoNyte-Sage]

I did what you are considering a while back, and to emphasize what Ugadata mentioned, it installs in the 64 bit "program files" directory. The important thing is to be sure you stop running the older 32 bit version of SageTV and disable the 32 bit service before installing and running the 64 bit version. I also recall a procedure for copying your wiz.bin file into the new SageTV 64 bit directory to retain all your old watched program history.

If you have the memory head room, you'll want to increase the java heap in the registry.

[jdaminc]

This was going to be my next question... Can both versions exist on the same computer? Just not run at the same time. My thought was to do this in case the 64 bit ver needed some tweaking , and still be able to use the 32 bit version until everything runs good with the new ver.

[KryptoNyte-Sage]

I believe I did exactly what you're suggesting, so yes, but always being sure that only one instance/service was running at a time.

[mickgeller]

@KryptoNyte-Sage is correct. You can have both, ensuring you run only one at a time. You probably want to write a bat file to copy wiz.bin and sage.properties back and forth, as you switch from one to the other. With that, you can preserve your total history.

Do you run OpenDCT? I believe there is a 64-bit version of that also. Searching the old forum may have comments on why you'd want to switch that also. I don't remember, as it's been 9 years since I ran Sage on Windows.

[jdaminc]

Thanks for the info... I have to clone my boot drive to a larger drive, before I can install the 64 bit ver..
No, I dont run OpenDCT. I have 2 HD Homerun Connects recording off Antenna

anyway...if something does go really bad, I can put the original boot drive back in the server, and be back to where I started