Smartshift-lite via websocket

[rob0101]

If Smartshift could publish (via websocket), its current suggested action (buy, sell, hold, consume), DIY and third party systems could perform the actions needed to implement the action, or they could choose to override.

This would be useful to systems that can be controlled locally via modbus or similar to reduce the complexity for Amber and battery/inverter Vendors.

As a DIYer, I could ignore or follow the published SS "advice" from one moment to the next without causing SS any extra work.

Third party systems that curtail unsupported solar could listen for the simple advice from SS without needing to fetch prices.

People who get up at 5am to disable Smartshift to stop it selling off in the mornings could have timed periods where they ignore the advice and keep the battery at a higher SOC.

There's probably a whole bunch of other ways you could use this concept, and from Amber's POV, it's simply publishing its best advice right now over a low bandwidth solution.

[rcruikshank]

What's the difference between that and using your own machine learning algorithm to build your own SS system on your home LAN. Plenty of people are using EMHASS to do that.

You can then include management of the larger loads in the home and control them via the machine learning calculation.

Here's an output from such a calculation. I run it every 30 seconds to manage my battery and other household loads all in the one process.

I manage my Sonnen battery, pool pump and EV charging this way. Had to do that becuase SS can't control a Sonnen battery. Sonnen don't allow Amber access to their VPP API.

[rcruikshank]

Yes I remember someone in amber saying the mum and dad datacentre was not an attractive option. Might be a business opportunity for some braver person

[rob0101]

Seen Powston ?. Very expensive 3rd party option for Amber.

[madpilot]

I wonder if they would be interested in providing a SS on a PI service with libraries for different batteries and add features to manage local load shifting.

We definitely aren't, but someone else can 100% do that if they want.

[rcruikshank]

Seen Powston ?. Very expensive 3rd party option for Amber.

No I haven't. Will have a look.

[rcruikshank]

I wonder if they would be interested in providing a SS on a PI service with libraries for different batteries and add features to manage local load shifting.

We definitely aren't, but someone else can 100% do that if they want.

I'd love to but I don't think I have the skills.

[madpilot]

If Smartshift could publish (via websocket), its current suggested action (buy, sell, hold, consume), DIY and third party systems could perform the actions needed to implement the action, or they could choose to override.

This would be useful to systems that can be controlled locally via modbus or similar to reduce the complexity for Amber and battery/inverter Vendors.

As a DIYer, I could ignore or follow the published SS "advice" from one moment to the next without causing SS any extra work.

Third party systems that curtail unsupported solar could listen for the simple advice from SS without needing to fetch prices.

People who get up at 5am to disable Smartshift to stop it selling off in the mornings could have timed periods where they ignore the advice and keep the battery at a higher SOC.

There's probably a whole bunch of other ways you could use this concept, and from Amber's POV, it's simply publishing its best advice right now over a low bandwidth solution.

I'm not against this. I have to do some internal pitching for it though.