Is Zurb Foundation in active development?

[bgarrant]

I have not seen a new pull request go through since Jan 2019. Is Foundation still in active development? I just want to know before I use on a few new projects.

Thanks in advance.

[DanielRuf]

I was one of the most active contributors to Foundation Sites in the last years. I'll try to answer this as best as possible.

In general this project is maintained and developed by volunteers, there are not so many people from ZURB involved anymore (which is not great). The communication could have been better.

The lead dev which helped with the last releases left the project and works on other things now. Currently I am mostly the solely active contributor. Unfortunately I (still) see no active contributions from other Yetinauts (the volunteers).

Doing this alone is not very motivating and the motivation which I had for Foundation Sites is not there anymore and I have stopped investing more time.

I welcome any help from the community and invite you all to actively contribute to the code.
So far 8 people have reacted to this issue and almost all have never contributed to this project (well, maintaining something big like this is a big responsibility and being a maintainer is never easy). This is not a critic but I would like to get some support by others.

[reinhardmohr]

Hi, Daniel,
thanks for helping so much!
This is the first clear answer about the progress of Foundation since I thought something might have gone wrong. I am no developer (at least not a real one) so I can't really help maintain the code. But what else could people like me do? People who have used Foundation, benefitted from it and would now like to give back something?
Could we develop a plan, an idea, a suggestion?
Thanks for helping and maintaining
Reinhard

[bgarrant]

Thanks for the work you have done Daniel. I am not a developer either so there is not much I can offer. Sorry. I hope Foundation lives on.

[oliviertassinari]

https://www.rank2traffic.com/zurb.com might provide a global context. It's public data.

[DanielRuf]

@oliviertassinari context for what? This does not change anything on our side tbh.

[oliviertassinari]

There is an opportunity cost in anything we undertake. I hope this one more data source that will help you best leverage your time. But I agree, it's not meant to change anything.

[matteotestoni]

Where are ncoden Rafi and others?

[JeremyEnglert]

Where are ncoden Rafi and others?

• Ncoden is working on other project.
• Rafi works for ZURB. Not 100% sure.
• Others? We're all volunteers. So everyone has their own projects to work on. Without a "lead", the project lost momentum.

[brettsmason]

A lot of us are still around. But unfortunately without any clear direction or lead, my motivation to help just isn't there.

[reinhardmohr]

Hi, I am neither a coder nor a Yetinaut – I am just an ordinary user of Fundation. But I regret it being abandoned.
So:

• How could things be organized?
• How could I help?
• What could we do to maintain the project?
• Who could and should discuss things with Zurb?

Given there are 100 users of Foundation each willing to give a 100 Dollars to keep the project going (I am willing to): There would be 10.000 Dollars as a starting point …

How could things be started to improve?

Thanks for answering and helping

Reinhard

[xgarb]

Maybe a Kickstarter for a JQuery-free version 7?

[matteotestoni]

As a web developer my priorities are different.

• fix for problems with topbar menu
• fix for sticky
• fix for usability: topmenu for smartphone,
• use media queries like bootstrap
• responsive font sizes
  ...
  ..

Things like this. If there is jquery or not for me is not important.
If development of a version without jquery is too expensive i think is not a priority

Matteo

[DanielRuf]

responsive font sizes

I guess you mean CSS Locks. See https://css-tricks.com/math-css-locks/

use media queries like bootstrap

Not sure what you mean.

[SassNinja]

use media queries like bootstrap

Not sure what you mean.

I'm wondering the same. What exactly do you mean?
Foundation provides breakpoint specific classes, too.

[JeremyEnglert]

Given there are 100 users of Foundation each willing to give a 100 Dollars to keep the project going (I am willing to): There would be 10.000 Dollars as a starting point …

That's a great goal, but I'm also not sure how realistic it is. Even if $10,000 was raised, I'm not sure how long that could keep someone/people working on the project. When Foundation was at its peak, it had multiple (ZURB) developers investing a ton of time into it.

How could things be started to improve?

Direction. Someone from ZURB needs to step up and lead the project or help the project cut ties from ZURB and become completely community based. At the moment, not much can be done without ZURB's input.

Maybe a Kickstarter for a JQuery-free version 7?

A "jQuery Free" version isn't going to save the project. A Kickstarter might be a good idea, but we can't build a campaign around specific features (jQuery-free).

As a web developer my priorities are different....If development of a version without jquery is too expensive i think is not a priority

Honestly, at this point there isn't even enough resources to maintain V6. It's not about funds (although that helps) or priorities. It's a lack of direction and time that is the issue.