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Hey, thanks for all your work on this! I'm having an issue. Attempting to play Darkwatch on PCSX2 nightly v1.7.4085 and bios SCPH-70012_BIOS_V12_USA_200. Everything loads fine, mouseinjector says it is detecting the game - but with the game hooked it doesn't actually work, despite saying it is hooked. Any idea what might be going on? Any details needed please do say! |
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Darkwatch is slightly different from the other games in that to get it to work consistently I decided to use cheats to save the base addresses for variables into areas of the PS2 memory that are unused. There are also cheats that disable the auto-centering of the camera when falling and the aim-lock on enemies. So you need to copy the file, '327053E8.pnach' from 'MouseInjectorDolphinDuck-latest\cheats' to the cheats folder in the PCSX2 directory. And then you need to enable cheats in PCSX2 by going to 'Settings->Emulation->Enable Cheats' Let me know if this helps! |
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That did work, thank you very much! Only issue now is that the cursor is still on-screen. |
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Ignore me, pcsx2 has a setting for that. Again many thanks! |
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Yeah you'll also have to disable the 'Double-Click Toggles Fullscreen' to avoid it constantly shrinking. I'll add a little note about these settings for PCSX2. Glad I could help! |
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Not trying to add more work to your plate, focus on the long list you've already got right now, but I'm just curious: down the road do you have plans to support RPCS3? There are a lot of console-exclusive FPS/TPS' on there that'd be cool to see mouse support for. There's already a mouse injector for the emulator called KAMI, but it's been broken for a while and they've said recently that they're not actively developing it, sadly. |
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Yeah I'd like to add support for RPCS3, xemu, xenia, redream, plus I've got a list of Sega Saturn games building and even some Sega Genesis games that I'd like to mess around with. I'm not going in any real order here so I just do whatever seems interesting. Also depends on the performance of the emulator. I haven't messed around too much with RPCS3 but looks like the games runs pretty well. So I may take a look at it soon if there's a game that really catches my interest and runs relatively smoothly. |
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Glad to hear that! When you do potentially add support for those, I'll give you a list of the exclusive FPS/TPS games on those systems. Dolphin and CEMU might also be worth a look, though really the only two on CEMU would be Devil's Third and ZombiU. I think every other shooter on that system was multiplatform (ZombiU was ported to PC, but it's missing some stuff from the WiiU version). Wii on the other hand has quite a few good exclusive FPS', but at the moment they already thankfully work very well by just binding the Wiimote to your mouse since those games used a floating crosshair. Would be interesting though if you were able to lock the crosshair to the center of the screen and then enable mouse aim.. |
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Instead of redream you could add support to Flycast, since it's doing better job at emulating games and is FOSS. |
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Oh hey, I would like to report some few issues regarding playing Darkwatch on PCSX2 with the injector, but I'm not really sure if it's something you can really fix. For example, if I raise PCSX2's overclock settings the mouse aiming stops working on the horse sections, and there's also times where after a cutscene or a level transition the mouse stops being captured for some brief seconds before it recovers. |
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After some testing I was able to recreate the horse issue. I was only able to get it to happen if the game was started with the overclock already enabled. Seems like if you start the game at the normal clock speed and then increase it works fine. Only tried testing on the first horse level after restarting the emulator so not sure if it will break on subsequent levels. The small pause on some levels is bound to happen just because of the way the addresses are being acquired. They flip between different values and the program checks to make sure a valid address is found and it may take a few cycles to find the right one resulting in a small pause usually at a level transition or restart. It's not a perfect solution but it's the most consistent one I was able to find for this game as there aren't any static addresses that hold pointers to the correct camera objects. And if they are there then they're most likely to be long pointer chains like the one used for the horse camera but that apparently breaks with overclocking so I'm not sure of the best solution. I may look at doing a cheat similar to the other ones that save the horse camera base in a known location. At least then it would most likely not break from overclocking. I played through the whole game a few weeks ago and I don't remember any pauses that were too egregious but I did play on the normal clock speed and I'm not sure if raising it will make those pauses worse. So unfortunately that's how it is at the moment but if I come across a better solution in the future I'll make sure to come back to this one. |
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I'm having issues with PCSX2, it doesn't seem to detect it so it closes. I guess it's because it's looking for the AVX2 executable instead of the SSE4 one (pcsx2-qtx64). There's a build that contains both instructions set (pcsx2-qt) so you might want to support that one instead. |
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Yeah it just checks for one specific executable name which is the AVX2 version just because it was the version I happened to be using. I updated it to check for the SSE4 and Qt versions as well. I tried a few games and they seem to work the same but I'll hold off on adding them to the supported list until I've done a little more testing. |
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Minor PCSX2 compatibility thoughts:
Also: Thanks for this tool! It's off to a strong start and I hope it continues to grow. |
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With Agent Under Fire it is usually the in-game cutscenes like one specifically I can think of is at the end of level 2 where the car jumps out of the building and drives down the street. The addresses used by the player's camera at that point are also used for the cinematic one so it will warp the camera. And for Quake it's a similar thing where the same camera is being used. Really they just need checks to see if the camera is moveable by the player. Not sure when I'll get to this but I've made notes of both. Thanks for the feedback! |
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Hello, please add reassigning buttons for functions or move them to the nampad, 4,5,6,7 interfere with assigning controlls. |
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This a feature I've been wanting as well. Especially since I want to eventually try and add keyboard functionality to control in-game actions like assigning specific weapons in Quake to the number keys instead of having to scroll through them. I'll look at changing the the hotkeys to something else. Thanks for the feedback! |
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You can also make all the buttons work through a keyboard shortcut. For example cntrl+4, cntrl+5 and etc. |
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Hello! Im super excited to try shadow tower +kings field games, but im having trouble getting the mouse injector to detect the emulator running the game. At the top of the mouse injector terminal it says moue injector for duckstation - no game loaded. Ive tried running mouseinjector exe from the duckstation install folder but no luck |
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There are a few things to check. What version of DuckStation do you have and are you using the standalone version? What BIOS are you using? Do the serials for the games match what is on the compatibility table? And have you downloaded the latest mouse injector release? Also the mouse injector executable doesn't have to be moved anywhere it should work from wherever you extracted it to. I've tested it with a fresh download of DuckStation plus the mouse injector and it works so you might also try restoring the default settings in DuckStation as some setting might be causing it not to hook. |
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Resetting all default settings fixed it thank you! ill go back and enable all my settings one by one and figure out which one it doesnt like now. Also once I've gotten a decent control scheme ill post my setup here. |
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Awesome! There was someone else who had the same issue but I couldn't narrow it down so it's good to hear that restoring the default settings fixes the issue. |
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Just finished Echo Night using this, works perfect start to end! I tried to jump with spacebar a few times it felt natural enough lol |
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Nice! Good to hear! I always think about trying to add stuff like jumping or crouching but then it just turns into making a mod of the game haha. |
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Hi there, trying to use this software with shadow tower on Duckstation and I can't figure out what to do with with the files!? I don't see an .exe or any other type of launchable file so I am curious as to how exactly I should even start the mouse injector... |
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say you didn't download the latest zip file from the releases page (not the source code zip). |
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Yes, that is exactly what I did! thank you :^D |
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By the way, tell us exactly how your injector works. Do you find coordinates in games and set the mouse to change them, or are you just emulating a stick on the mouse? |
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It overwrites values in the game memory that correspond to the camera's angles with values calculated from the movement of the mouse. It's different from just using the mouse as input for the control stick because with that method, which is supported by PCSX2, you would still have controller based features like acceleration and snap-back applied to the mouse movements. With injection it just directly modifies the values without being adjusted. Each game must be done separately as they have different addresses, types of variables used, overall structure, and different assisting features (they are different games after all). Generally I try to disable features like aim-lock, aim-assist that is rotational or slows down the camera, and auto-centering of the camera as they either interfere with the mouse injection or they make the aiming feel worse. Also I am not the original creator of the project I am just maintaining it. The core of the program was made by the original creator and I have just modified it to work with other emulators and games. The core has basically gone unchanged since the original project. Hope that helps! |
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Seeing the Beetle PSX HW core being supported so quickly is definitely a pleasant surprise, thank you! |
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Nice, good to hear that it's working fine! Yeah I can make a discussion for that because it would be nice to know if an update to a core or emulator breaks compatibility. I didn't do an extensive test with all the currently supported games for each core so it would be helpful. One issue I did find was with Medal of Honor Underground in that I didn't even know the game had an involuntary auto-center feature until I tried it with Beetle PSX and realized it was because the controller was set to digital. Thanks for the feedback! |
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Heyo. |
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Tested it with 0.1-5485 and it's working so it must be some setting that is preventing it from hooking. The only one I know for sure at the moment is 'Settings->Console->Enable 8MB Ram (Dev Console)' will prevent it from working if it is enabled. If that's not on then you should try 'Settings->Restore Defaults' in DuckStation. A few other people have had this problem and that has fixed it. Let me know if this helps! |
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Hello! Thank you for your hard work. |
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This is some truly great work, even games and systems I wouldn't have thought of being up for support, like SNES with Wild Guns, are getting lots of love from this project! I thought I'd write in to ask for this, but I understand if it's just a complication of how the mouse injector works, would there be a chance you could make this compatible with Steam Input? It seems that any mouse movement done through that, for example setting up Gyro or using a controller's trackpad, doesn't get registered by the mouse injector. Again, understand if that's just outside the wheel house of the project. Oh, and this is for standard PC Steam use, not Steam Deck. From videos online, it seems like it works there with some Proton tinkering. Also, for anyone looking for a workaround for this exact issue, ReWASD seems to work just fine doing the same thing, but that's a paid program. |
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I didn't even know that Steam had this capability but I've played around with it a bit. I've tested it with Wild Guns and I see what you're saying. It seems to be because the injector only accepts input from one device and the Steam Input counts as a different one to the plugged in mouse. It uses whichever is input device is found first which usually is your primary mouse. You can get it to work if you hook the game and then unplug your mouse. The injector will use the Steam Input as the mouse if it is the only other pointer device. Then you can plug your mouse back in and you'll have the opposite scenario where the mouse won't affect the game but the Steam Input controller will. It doesn't always seem to work so you might have to mess around with it. A real fix will have to wait until some sort of GUI is implemented or I may be able to add a hotkey that loops through the detected input devices so the user can choose which input device to use instead of having to unplug the mouse. Let me know if this workaround works for you too! |
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Unplugging and replugging my mouse works for me! Thank you for the work around, can't wait to make the most of the program using this! |
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Having some issues trying to get Wild Guns to hook. I've managed to get all the supported emulators (other than snes) working with it but I hadn't tried any SNES games til now. I saw your Wild Guns video so I had to try it out. I've tried it on the patched version of the ROM, as well as a version that combines the FastRom Patch from romhacking.net with the provided patch, and just the default game as well and none of them would detect. Not sure what i'm doing wrong unless Bsnes is only supported through Retroarch. |
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The standalone BSNES is quite finicky with hooking as if you don't do everything in a specific order then it will not hook. Usually I would have to open BSNES, open the injector and start it, and immediately load the game for it to work but it was not very reliable. It would also generally stop working if you messed around too much with the menus or loaded save states. So I've removed it from the supported list for now although it technically will still work but the more reliable way to play it would be with RetroArch. It should work with the original unpatched version, with the FastROM, and it works with and without the supplied patch as that one just affects the gameplay. Unfortunately SNES is in a similar situation to N64 in that there doesn't seem to be a best choice when it comes to using the injector. They either don't have the option map the mouse buttons, to hide the cursor, or they don't have controller profiles which is understandable because I don't think there is any real need to have those options for playing the games normally. I would like to have an option for SNES games besides RetroArch so eventually I'll try and take a look at something like Ares or Mesen. |
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Thanks, appreciate your work and the support. I wasn't expecting to care much about the 2d Era of mouse support but as I've recently discovered Fastrom and SA-1 hacks I've got a reinvigorated interest. |
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ghost in the shell (ps2) feels really good with a mouse and keyboard, funny enough with it having like no animations for swapping and reloading, it makes it feel snappier |
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What's the status of Killzone support on PS2? I see that there seems to be a profile made for it, the injector does detect it and say that it has hooked in, but the mouse still doesn't seem to work in the game, it gets locked in place, but doesn't move the aim. |
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I tried to use this with Dolphin on Wine, and it didn't even detect that I was running Serious Sam Next Encounter (NTSC v1.1) on Dolphin. |
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What am I doing wrong here? I've tried running with Armored Core (USA) SCUS-94182 but it doesn't hook. It just says " Mouse Injector for DuckStation - No game loaded". I've tried to restore to default settings, even deleted the config folder altogether. I even download alternative bios. Nothing worked.
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Might be the Windows 11. Do other games work? |
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this is awesome software, it has transformed resident evil gun survivor into a proper FPS now lol. i had a thought though, could you use Opentracks mouse emulation with this to create headtracking? i tried, and although the mouse hooks, and i can see the curser bound on the screen, it doesnt move ingame, the regular mouse does, but not the emulated mouse i know this os outside the scope of your project but perhaps you might have some insight in getting the emulated mouse working? |
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That would be crazy but what games would you use it on? I already use a freepie script to conver TRACKIR movement to analog stick movement in PCSX2 when I play Ace Combat 4 and 5 in first person cockpit mode and after setting up a curve profile to compensate for the controller deadzone it works almost perfectly. I just cant think of many games that have a freelook independent of the movement. |
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did the project died? |
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Please don't drop the project! Thanks for your hard work! |
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Hello, I am trying to play Alien Trilogy (Ps1), and whatever the emulator I use (Duckstation, Retroarch...) or the mouse injector version I use (I tried all versions from V4), the issue is the same: I already tried the classic workarounds: Restart the computer, try a different mouse, unplug and plug the mouse... no luck so far. Thanks for your attention. I’m looking forward to your reply. |
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This game requires a couple cheats that are provided when you download a release. You need to import the cheat file from the cheats folder and enable them in DuckStation.
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Thanks a lot for the answer! It is definitely the best way to play this game! |
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Played King's field IV with the mouse injector, game completely beat, no issues whatsoever. |
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Scroll down to releases. |
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First of all, thanks for the injector. Awesome stuff! King's Field 1 (JAP) is the only one that doesnt work well for me. Sometimes it detects the game but doesn't apply mouse movement, often it doesn't detect the game at all. Out of 10 tries, it only worked once ramdomly. After a restart, it didn't work again, and I can't pinpoint why it suddently worked. Maybe another way of detecting the game would fix it? Using standalone Duckstation |
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I really hope for the support of N.O.V.A. Near Orbit Vanguard Alliance (PSP). This game requires mouse support |
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Has anyone tried this with windows 11? Wondering if it's my setup not working or the mouse injector itself doesn't work on windows 11. |
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Can we please get a Linux port? |
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The project is dead. For those who want to develop this project further, here is a training video from this author. |
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