[Discusion] what the realtion between dev.java and learn.java

[Just-some-one]

Hello

this should be a discussion but it does not fill in the request category

what the relation between dev.java and learn.java?

are we going to get some migrate for the tutorial part of dev.java to learn.java
what is the plan for learn.java i see it has some practice which is good addition

thanks and have a nice day

[danthe1st]

I would consider https://learn.java to be focused on helping people with learning (including teaching) Java, providing a path/roadmap and having resources for that. However, it seems (at least to me) that https://learn.java is far from complete and still needs a lot of work to provide an actual learning path with the necessary resources on each topic.
I guess one of the goals is to have one (authoritative) site students can go to "learn Java" since there are currently many sites with different levels of quality and it's hard to know which ones are good or bad - so why not make one standard site to rule them all?.

On the other hand, https://dev.java/learn contains general articles on various Java topics that are not necessarily for students (but they are typically written in a way that it is easily understandable) and that are grouped by category as opposed to being ordered in any way (I think the ordering on https://learn.java/learning/tutorials/ is probably based on existing curricular (probably whatever the AP CSA thing is) and what Oracle/the devrel group thinks is important - Though I fear that will never be the case). This is not just for students/educators but for developers in general. You can also see that on the other content on https://dev.java (that isn't located under /learn) which contains information on news, events and Java User Groups (JUGs).

That being said, I would appreciate https://learn.java linking to https://dev.java/learn articles if it is applicable (for example if there's already a beginner/student-friendly article for a topic on https://dev.java/, I don't see why another article on the same topic needs to be written for https://learn.java.

Disclaimer: I am just an outside contributor who is interested in that site (currently mainly https://dev.java/learn but I'd also like to be convinced about https://learn.java once it gets to a point where I can tell people "If you want to learn Java, go to https://learn.java/learning/tutorials/ and it has all you need to get the basics."). I don't make decisions about this and these are just my opinions.

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