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[byordereurope]

Route::post('register', function() {
$rules = array(
'name' => 'required|min:3|max:80|alpha_dash',
'email' => 'required|between:3,64|email|unique:users',
'password' => 'required|alpha_num|between:4,8|confirmed',
'password_confirmation' => 'required|alpha_num|between:4,8'
);

    $validator = Validator::make(Input::all(), $rules);

    if ($validator->passes()) {
        User::create(array(
                'name'     => Input::get('name'),
                'email'    => Input::get('email'),
                'password' => Hash::make(Input::get('password'))
            ));

        return Redirect::to('/')->with('message', 'Thanks for registering!');
    } else {
        return Redirect::to('/')->withErrors($v->getMessages());
    }
}

);

It must be me missing something propably, but that withErrors is not going to return much if i look at the rest of the code ?

[igorsantos07]

Sorry, I couldn't understand what you meant, but I did notice a mistake: it
should be withErrors($validator->getMessages()). I'm going to fix it
later.

However, beyond that, I'm unaware of how laravel works. See if that solves
your problem.

[byordereurope]

Well indeed, good catch. But one thing concerns me... you are unaware how laravel works ??? Then how for god's sake can you create a package for laravel 4 if you even have no clue how it works ??? Am i missing something here ?

[igorsantos07]

Protip: good IDEs help you showing you mispelled variables. But thanks for
pointing out the mistake anyway (:

And yes, you are missing a big deal here.

First, I entered the team working to make ardent work outside of laravel.
I've never used the framework and I just know his base inners enough to do
my work here.
Second, as you may be aware, the framework is componentized, what means one
does not need to use the framework to start using one of its packages, as
they were many to work independently since the beginning ;)
On Jul 21, 2013 7:18 AM, "byordereurope" notifications@github.com wrote:

Well indeed, good catch. But one thing concerns me... you are unaware how
laravel works ??? Then how for god's sake can you create a package for
laravel 4 if you even have no clue how it works ??? Am i missing something
here ?

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[igorsantos07]

Very good to see how you behave, @byordereurope. Have you tried reading my reply here? I don't think so.

You do dirty copy-pasting and I'm the wrong guy here, cool 👍

[byordereurope]

As a matter of fact, i did read your reply. Which concerned me even more, as auth for your website is one of the base things that should work all the time. After people made changes to Ardent a bunch of people saw their websites break, and i can tell you one thing... this is so not done. So don't try to make me look like the big bad wolf, i was not the one that made a bunch of people having troubles with their websites.

So even if you have no knowledge of laravel then at least somebody in this team would have pointed you to the error in the example in the first place. But because nobody did that indicates you people do not give a rat ass. What does that tell about you and the team ? The truth hurts that's for sure.

[igorsantos07]

I still think you did a bad copy paste.
It's an example with a wrong variable. The error is not even in the presented feature! How can you be so mad about don't verifying what YOUrself coup into your OWN project? If you had read the code before copying you would have noticed the issue and reported, or even more, fixed, as it's the easier thing to do in GitHub and I have done a lot of times for other projects.
This is where I think you're being "the big bad wolf".

About the updating issue, I explained a lot in my reply in the original issue. But I would add here that, if you (or the packages you depend on) have a big website and it is depending in a "dev-master" package (that IS supposed to change and eventually break stuff, since it's a dev package), YOU are doing things wrong here. You could have locked into a specific commit but you haven't. Having no release tag is little excuse, since in the end it's just a cleaner way to lock into a commit. Also, if you had a big website you would have a staging area and would notice issues with the update before putting anything into production, so no one would be affected. Again, management issue of you, not from the project.
Also, if you had a big website you would have helped to look for the issue root, instead of relying on the package maintainers to lock into the right version for you.

I CAN see and understand your arguments, but none of them would really happen in a responsible project/company with responsible developers. What happened in Ardent is understandable since it was a dev package and nothing was impeding you to lock into a stable state. I'm doing my best to improve the quality of the project with my expertise, but my work is nothing if the developers don't know how to use their tools and environment.

[byordereurope]

Well that is actually a very good question you ask there Igor. You know i often wonder that myself, why do some things make me that mad... OR can it be that the person at the other side just is not reading it the way it is mentioned. Others call it ADHD i believe, at least that is what i have been told. A downside of it is, that mostly the person ranting is forgotton it all again a few moments later, because he has hard times to focus on one thing specifically. But again, that is what me is being told, that would be the symtoms. And believe me, i'm trying hard to slow that down, but it is always the banging against a wall, not able to proceed because something does not work, is what is breaking me up after all those years of at least trying to build something. So mostly my answers are ultimately hars (or harsch or hard or whatever they call it), while it is truly not really my intention. Does that help ?

However by reading your answer, i must admit that the most of the arguments you are giving are perfectly valid. Maybe the reason why i was that mad was because it was a combination of circumstances, and a chat on the irc channel where a few people had the same problem and where not pleased either. so my appologies and your answer above is 100% accurate, i see that now. Thanks for pointing me on it. Much appreciated.

[igorsantos07]

It helps (:
Good luck trying to control your feelings. I would suggest re-reading what
you posts to see if there's sense on what you're saying. This may help you
notice misinterpretations and think in a different way about the problem.

Besides that, I can see how you fell. I have felt the same way some weeks
ago trying to integrate a payment gateway in a ruby application, trying
three different libraries and all with different issues. Haha
The idea here is that, if someone couldn't do, you can. Or if you don't
feel awesome enough that day, you can help who's doing, instead of just
complain and wait for the problem to solve itself (as long as you have time
to help, even if it's just with a good bug report).
On Jul 24, 2013 1:37 PM, "byordereurope" notifications@github.com wrote:

Well that is actually a very good question you ask there Igor. You know i
often wonder that myself, why do some things make me that mad... OR can it
be that the person at the other side just is not reading it the way it is
mentioned. Others call it ADHD i believe, at least that is what i have been
told. A downside of it is, that mostly the person ranting is forgotton it
all again a few moments later, because he has hard times to focus on one
thing specifically. But again, that is what me is being told, that would be
the symtoms. And believe me, i'm trying hard to slow that down, but it is
always the banging against a wall, not able to proceed because something
does not work, is what is breaking me up after all those years of at least
trying to build something. So mostly my answers are ultimately hars (or
harsch or hard or whatever they call it), while it is truly not really my
intention. Does that help ?

However by reading your answer, i must admit that the most of the
arguments you are giving are perfectly valid. Maybe the reason why i was
that mad was because it was a combination of circumstances, and a chat on
the irc channel where a few people had the same problem and where not
pleased either. so my appologies and your answer above is 100% accurate, i
see that now. Thanks for pointing me on it. Much appreciated.

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