What about Roundcube Next?

[gabrielsieben]

Two years ago now, Roundcube raised over $100,000 for "Roundcube Next", then promptly abandoned it taking all the money, without any explanation.

https://github.com/roundcube-next

Explanation please.

[thomascube]

There are a few mistakes to clarify: the Roundcube Next crowdfunding was not done by Roundcube but by Kolab Systems. It was meant to become a successor for Roundcube and therefore we helped promoting it and also helped in the early stages of conception and prototyping. Anything that goes beyond is the sole responsibility of Kolab Systems and can only be explained by them. Despite the naming, there's no relation between the two projects and thus this ticket was opened in the wrong place.

[MagicFab]

According to Phoronix, not happening.

[SolarDesalination]

thomascube, weren't you the last person to update the Roubdcube Next indigogo page? To say that you have no responsibility for it is a little rich. Shouldn't the money be returned to the backers?

[mckaygerhard]

jajaj seems was a "hack" of money!

[mckaygerhard]

issue #7110 was closed... no explanations, we only request some information ...

[mckaygerhard]

OWOWW! that's was a big noted!

[alecpl]

I removed offensive comments from the user known from such behaviors. His statements were not true and based on outdated information. I'm no longer an employee of Kolab Systems and I was never directly involved in Roundcube Next.

[thomasdotklein]

It is worth clarifying that Kolab Systems is now Apheleia IT AG limited.

Thus, all Kolab Systems employees are essentially Apheleia employees.

@alecpl as Roundcube Next was going to replace Roundcube 1, and the limitations in developing it further (even if developed by Kolab [Apheleia]) it may be a little unfair to say the Roundcube developers had no interest in this, given that Aleksander develops actively for Kolab.

It is also noteworthy Kolab´s requirements are likely to have a significant influence on Roundcube development roadmap, given they are the biggest sponsor of Roundcube.

@alecpl I would respectfully ask you to do what you can to help an update be given by Apheleia leadership. Your development role in Roundcube and it being Kolab´s webclient means your views would likely be considered.

As you develop Roundcube, I am sure you would have thoughts on whether it makes sense to add more features, and when the point of adding new features starts to yield diminishing returns because of the cost of development and deep structural changes.

[SolarDesalination]

Thanks for the update @thomasdotklein I'll make sure to update the Wikipedia article about that company. I find it interesting that they would change their name to try to get away from the fact that they stole $100,000 from crowdfunders.

[alecpl]

Here's my position:

@thomasdotklein also known as @zainjetha is a stalker and a liar. I'd be careful with using information from him.

@thomascube already clarified what had happened. This is a wrong place for this conversation.

Kolab Systems still exists so it could not change the name. None of Kolab Systems' owners and management is with Apheleia IT. Yes, it took over some employees and services, and is working on Kolab, but that's it.