About Pretendo Compatibility

[yagomeu2]

Anyone tried to install pretendo without a real n3ds? Only using the 3Beans LLE?

[TycoonCoder]

I haven’t used this project yet because I’m waiting for more optimizations or an AI bubble burst so I get a GPU, but assuming this truly emulates the 3DS, pretendo should work.

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[Laucs-sudo]

it is true it could work but you need have 3ds with godmode9 and copy files

[silver178]

I mean yeah pretty much but since this literately emulates a 3ds, it emulates GM9 and Luma.

[jonbarrow]

I just saw this, sorry for the kind of late reply. But there will never be a way to play on Pretendo Network without a real device

Every Wii U and 3DS ships with console-unique files that are signed by Nintendo at the factory. Only Nintendo has the private key to sign these files, but the public key to verify the signatures is, well, public. Every time either console goes online, it sends these console-unique files and their signatures to the server

Our servers verify the legitimacy of these files using the public key and use that data as a unique identifier for the console (which is also why you shouldn't share these files with other people, since they would allow them to impersonate your console and potentially get you banned), as a form of security and moderation. Checking the signatures helps us filter out trivial abuse (like random people trying to spam the API) and perform essential moderation tasks like console bans, so we won't be removing this. We did, at one point, allow connections without these files but it was almost immediately abused and so we had to enable the checks

[TycoonCoder]

Have you considered requiring people to tie accounts to discord accounts if they want to play without a real console?

[jonbarrow]

That is not viable, as it turns a "console ban" into effectively just an account ban, and what's worse is it's tied to an account system we don't control. Anyone can just make multiple Discord alts to bypass moderation efforts that way

We get questions like this a lot, and I've already answered the most common ones here PretendoNetwork/website#317

The short answer is that there is no long-term viable, effective, alternative. Even things like trying to tie things to a phone number or credit card, or something else that most people consider "unique" that would prevent alting, can be "alted" and it's just not worth the effort to play the cat and mouse game when we already implement things accurately to how Nintendo did and it's as effective as we currently need it to be

[silver178]

I just saw this, sorry for the kind of late reply. But there will never be a way to play on Pretendo Network without a real device

Every Wii U and 3DS ships with console-unique files that are signed by Nintendo at the factory. Only Nintendo has the private key to sign these files, but the public key to verify the signatures is, well, public. Every time either console goes online, it sends these console-unique files and their signatures to the server

Our servers verify the legitimacy of these files using the public key and use that data as a unique identifier for the console (which is also why you shouldn't share these files with other people, since they would allow them to impersonate your console and potentially get you banned), as a form of security and moderation. Checking the signatures helps us filter out trivial abuse (like random people trying to spam the API) and perform essential moderation tasks like console bans, so we won't be removing this. We did, at one point, allow connections without these files but it was almost immediately abused and so we had to enable the checks

Yep. There's no way this can generate actual hardware unique keys. Even if it's supposed to be so accurate.