Feature Request: File-Folder Hybrid

[amab8901]

The way Rust currently organizes modules seems unnecessarily verbose: creating a directory and then creating a file with the same name as the directory, in which you manually need to specify the children. Would be really convenient for a Rust developer if a file-folder hybrid was introduced into Linux Kernel, so that Rust compiler can capitalize on it to eliminate the redundancy.

Benefits:

• no need to duplicate the same file/folder name => cleaner/simpler/streamlined file tree
• No need to write "pub mod X", because compiler would be able to figure it out automatically

This idea is inspired by Notion, which supports file-folder hybrids.

Here's how the filesystem works today:

apple
├──pear
│   ├──kiwi.rs
│   ├──potato.rs
│   └──cucumber.rs
├──guava
│   ├──tomato.rs
│   ├──orange.rs
│   └──banana.rs
├──pineapple
│   ├──blueberry.rs
│   ├──strawberry.rs
│   └──lemon.rs
├──pear.rs
├──guava.rs
└──pineapple.rs

The following files can have child files but cannot directly be written to or read from:

• pear
• guava
• pineapple

The following files can be directly written to and read from but cannot have child files:

• pear.rs
• guava.rs
• pineapple.rs
• kiwi.rs
• potato.rs
• cucumber.rs
• tomato.rs
• orange.rs
• banana.rs
• blueberry.rs
• strawberry.rs
• lemon.rs

Here's what I'd like the filesystem to be capable of:

apple
├──pear.rs
│   ├──kiwi.rs
│   ├──potato.rs
│   └──cucumber.rs
├──guava.rs
│   ├──tomato.rs
│   ├──orange.rs
│   └──banana.rs
└──pineapple.rs
    ├──blueberry.rs
    ├──strawberry.rs
    └──lemon.rs

The following can be read from, written to, and have child files:

• [every single file above]

The following are read from, written to and have child files all simultaneously:

• pear.rs
• guava.rs
• pineapple.rs

The following have all 3 abilities but are using only the abilities to be written to and be read from (but aren't using their ability to have child files):

• kiwi.rs
• potato.rs
• cucumber.rs
• tomato.rs
• orange.rs
• banana.rs
• blueberry.rs
• strawberry.rs
• lemon.rs

[bjorn3]

This is not something rust-for-linux has control over.

[tgross35]

I am not sure what is meant by a file/folder hybrid, but in Rust you can also do module_name/mod.rs. And if you don't have submodules, you can just create module_name.rs without creating a directory.

[ojeda]

Yeah, @amab8901 please clarify -- do you have an example? Thanks!

[amab8901]

I updated the original post to elaborate what it looks like

[bjorn3]

What you seem to want is fundamentally impossible on any common OS. And even if Linux itself added support for it, it will take decades before everyone in the Linux userspace and all git tooling has caught up to it and even once that happens, using it in the Linux source code would make it impossible to cross-compile Linux from a non-Linux OS that likely don't (yet) support it.

[ojeda]

@amab8901 Thanks for detailing the original message!

From your expanded example, I agree that it seems unrelated to Rust for Linux: if I understand correctly, your motivation is to improve how Rust works in userspace (and likely other use cases); however, Rust for Linux is about supporting Rust as a language for kernel development (e.g. writing a driver in Rust), not about adding features to the kernel that could improve Rust when used in Linux.

If you want to pursue the idea, then I would suggest raising this in the LKML Cc'ing the right experts, such as FS people, ideally with some prototype code to show how it would look like.

[ojeda]

Closing given this seemed out of scope, but please feel free to reply and/or reopen if needed -- thanks!