Showing very tiny font in the Debug console tab

[ptschip]

on Windows 7, 32bit

[maflcko]

Someone should revert 268b79e ...

[jonasschnelli]

Thanks @ptschip for reporting. At first sight, i agree, it's small or lets say smaller then before. But if I compare it with other text elements like "Information" (tab), it looks reasonable.

Will compare font sized on windows within the next days.

[maflcko]

it's small or lets say smaller than before

It's about 95% of the previous size ( 268b79e ). The reason this looks so tiny is that the windows monospace font is more wide than tall.

[ptschip]

Size aside, why isn't it the same font as in the other tabs? The other
tabs look like Helvetica and only in this tab it's using some other font
which makes it only harder to read.

On 18/11/2015 4:23 AM, MarcoFalke wrote:

it's small or lets say smaller than before

It's about 95% of the previous size ( 268b79e
268b79e
). The reason this looks so tiny is that the windows monospace font is
more wide than tall.

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#7017 (comment).

[jonasschnelli]

@ptschip This was changed in #6864. RPC output should use a fixed-pitch font (line in a terminal) for best readability.
Do you think it's harder to read because of the fixed-pitch font or because of the size?

[ptschip]

@jonasschnelli It's the font style that is hard to read. Fixed pitch is fine when it's bigger but when it's small I find the edges of each letter start to blurr and I have to make more effort to view it especially on a 15" screen or less. With Helvetica you don't have that problem, it has clear edges.

[jonasschnelli]

I agree that this is suboptimal. It feels like, that the terminals font and size is a matter of taste (and also depending on what OS is used). A nice solution would be to allow changing the font and size over the GUI settings.

[ptschip]

@jonasschnelli Yes, I agree, it would be great if we could select our own font type and size. With all the different sized terminals and differences in vision, personal taste etc, it's hard to find a one size fits all approach.

[ptschip]

@jonasschnelli Feel free to close this issue if it's not something that needs fixing but rather, requires an enhancement.

[jonasschnelli]

Lets keep it open for now because other users might also find this problematic and i'd like to get more feedback for this.

[maflcko]

Agree with @jonasschnelli to leave this open. The windows font really looks odd. On OSX (and linux) it looks much better.

[ptschip]

you'll get no argument from me...

On 18/11/2015 9:03 AM, MarcoFalke wrote:

Agree with @jonasschnelli https://github.com/jonasschnelli to leave
this open. The windows font really looks odd. On OSX (and linux) it
looks much better.

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#7017 (comment).

[laanwj]

As I said before #6864, I think it would have been better to stick with proportional font. Getting monospace fonts consistent on all platforms turns out, again, to be a time sink.

[maflcko]

@jonasschnelli suggested to bundle a monospace font so we get the same flavor across platforms. I start liking this idea but I haven't yet found a suitable MIT/PD monospace font.

[jonasschnelli]

Not sure if bundling a font for this purpose is a good solution. I would recommend that we add a feature that allows to switch/choose a custom font (over http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/qfontdialog.html). Either over the setting panel or – hidden as "expert features" – over a context menu of the console textview.

[luke-jr]

Requested MIT licensing on https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=trojita.git&a=blob&h=019204e33d1ef2c2311795064195bc0b41a376fa&hb=652835c867bec9a4aa31c1bd44ed2220852f8013&f=src%2FGui%2FUtil.cpp

At the very least, note Qt5 has a way to do this nicely.

[laanwj]

IMO bundling a font is overkill. This is getting out of hand, the debug console is just a developer feature, it doesn't need all this design effort.

[veqtrus]

This is still a problem in 0.12rc1.

[maflcko]

Too many users complain about this. Let's make the workaround a bit more dirty because no one liked it in the first place. Please see #7364.

[laanwj]

I still think we should simply revert to a proportional font. This is getting crazy.

[jonasschnelli]

Agree with @laanwj.

[maflcko]

Ok with me but I'd rather schedule this after the 0.12.0 release. #7364 as a Windows only fix for 0.12.0 is ugly but acceptable?

[jonasschnelli]

I think we should not introduce a monospace font in 0.12 and remove it in 0.12.1 (or 0.13). IMO best solution would be to revert and go back to the original behavior. What was the original issue to switch over to the monospace font?

[maflcko]

Your pretty-print pull "introduced" the issue ;)

[laanwj]

The pretty-printing looked somewhat better with monospaced font. However, getting one font to work well over platforms already seems to be problematic. Every time you think you got it right, some new issue turns up (e.g. #7341). So let alone two...