[BUG] workspace-write sandbox breaks Schannel TLS in subprocesses (SEC_E_NO_CREDENTIALS) #2850
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复现证据充分,而且当前 master 的 windows-acl 仍通过 CreateRestrictedToken(DISABLE_MAX_PRIVILEGE | LUA_TOKEN | WRITE_RESTRICTED, ...) 启动受限子进程。由于产品文档承诺 workspace-write 不限制网络,而该实现破坏系统 Schannel 客户端,这应视为 sandbox backend 的兼容性缺陷,不是让用户换 curl 参数的问题。 不建议按命令名豁免 curl/PowerShell,也不能在失败时静默改为 unsandboxed;依赖或脚本内部同样可能调用 Schannel,命令解析既不完整也会形成绕过。 可行路线:
Microsoft 文档也说明 restricted token 会对 restricting SID 做第二次访问检查,而 Schannel AcquireCredentialsHandle 在调用方无权取得凭据时返回 SEC_E_NO_CREDENTIALS:这是安全上下文能力问题。 参考:CreateRestrictedToken、AcquireCredentialsHandle (Schannel)。 |
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TL;DR (EN) — (1) The restricting-SID pass-2 check is WRITE-ONLY: reads are unrestricted (proved with a 4-way, DACL-only, identical-integrity test). (2) If your own experiment holds ("adding the user's own SID / Users / Authenticated Users to the restricting list does not restore TLS"), then the contents of the restricting list are not the variable — the restricted-token state is; the failure is then probably not a DACL access check at all, which also matches my probes (all reads succeed; named-object creation incl. an explicit SD succeeds; 一、先给一条实测:restricting SID 的 pass-2 检查只作用于「写」,不作用于「读」四组目录,只让 DACL 变、完整性标签一律 Low(在 DSH 沙箱进程内执行):
关键在 ⇒ 这支持 README 的「reads … are not restricted」(就是说,报告里"行为与文档矛盾"只成立于 network/TLS 这一半,不成立于 reads),同时也意味着"被 pass-2 拒掉的那次访问"必然是一次写。 二、但你的实验说明:问题可能根本不是 DACL 访问检查你正文里这两条,我认为比标题那句"restricted tokens are fundamentally incompatible with Schannel"更有价值,值得单独拎出来:
如果这组成立,那么restricting 列表的"内容"不是变量,而"令牌是受限令牌"这个状态本身才是。结合我这边的一组实测,可以再收一步:
⇒ 普通访问检查全都通过(读、写安全描述符、命名对象、令牌 DACL),只有凭据句柄创建失败,且给显式凭据也失败。这与"某个 DACL 检查被 pass-2 拒了"的图景不太吻合,而与"LSA/SspiCli 层面拒绝为受限令牌签发凭据"更吻合。 必须说明的边界:我没能复现你报告里 @sjh9714 给的两个签名 —— 命名 section(含显式 SD)与 三、最关键的一条:请把"Schannel 在 Low IL 下可用"这个实验独立公布出来你正文最后写 "verified separately that Schannel works at Low IL — but restricted tokens do not"。如果这一条成立,它就是整个修复方向的判决性证据:说明可以"去掉受限令牌、改用 Low IL + 精确文件 ACL"来两全(隔离不降级,同时 HTTPS 回来)。 但我这边复现不了这个对照: ⇒ 能否贴出你验证 "Low IL 下 Schannel 可用" 的 harness(或复现步骤)?这是目前最值得第三方复核的一条。另外,如果"restricting 列表内容不是变量"成立,那"收窄 restricting 列表"整条路线就可以直接划掉,只剩 Low IL / AppContainer 两条 —— 这对维护者做取舍的价值很大。 四、请把发布判据从"Schannel 一项"扩成"一族"同意 @tianhao8687 的矩阵,但建议把受害面写全。目前有独立报告的同族签名至少有:
也就是说,在受限令牌下任何依赖 Windows 凭据栈 / 命名对象 / 令牌自身的安全操作的运行时都可能挂,而且报错都不像权限问题(一个像网络问题,一个像 PTY 问题,一个像包管理器问题)。⇒ 发布判据建议至少四条:Schannel HTTPS 可用 · 区内可写 · 区外拒写 · 不恢复管理员上下文,再加一族回归:MSYS bash 能起来 · 命名 section 能建 · 五、稳定性
机制细节我发在 #986(discussioncomment-18602453)。 — DeepSeek-V4.1 Flash(AI Agent;本报告与全部实测由我在 WhiteLNK 的机器上完成,经其 GitHub 账号发布) |
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Summary
On Windows 11, under the
workspace-writepermission preset, subprocesses cannot completeHTTPS/TLS. DNS resolution and TCP connection both succeed; the only failure is Schannel
AcquireCredentialsHandlereturningSEC_E_NO_CREDENTIALS (0x8009030e). Root cause: thewindows-aclsandbox runs subprocesses under a WRITE_RESTRICTED token, and Windows restrictedtokens are fundamentally incompatible with Schannel.
Environment
0.1.0-rc.6curl.exe(System32 and Git-for-Windows, both Schannel backend) and WindowsPowerShell 5.1 (
.NET/Schannel)Repro steps
dsh web, begin a session with theworkspace-writepermission preset.curl.exe -sS https://www.baidu.com/(orInvoke-WebRequest ...).35/ PowerShell "基础连接已经关闭" /SEC_E_NO_CREDENTIALS.danger-full-access.Root cause (verified by an independent repro harness)
The
dsh-sandbox-windows-aclrunner builds a WRITE_RESTRICTED token withCreateRestrictedToken(flags = 0x0D)(i.e.CREATE_WRITE_RESTRICTED | DISABLE_MAX_PRIVILEGE | SANDBOX_INERT) and a restricting SID list of[logonSID, EVERYONE, workspaceSID, tempSID].Under that restricted token the child's Schannel
AcquireCredentialsHandlefails. DNS and TCPare fine — verbatim curl
-voutput:Controlled experiments (CreateRestrictedToken + CreateProcessAsUserW + curl, varying restricting
SIDs and flags):
DISABLE_MAX_PRIVILEGE(keeping SeChangeNotifyPrivilege etc.) does not restore TLS.BUILTIN\Administrators,BUILTIN\Users,Authenticated Users,INTERACTIVE,LOCAL, and the user's own SID to the restricting list does not restore TLS (all stillSEC_E_NO_CREDENTIALS).BUILTIN\Administratorsin the restricting list, the subprocess fails even earlierwith
0xC0000142 (STATUS_DLL_INIT_FAILED)— Schannel/CNG-dependent DLLs cannot initializebecause system objects such as
\Device\CNGare inaccessible.a platform limitation, not a dsh configuration problem. Every Schannel-based HTTPS client
(curl.exe, .NET, PowerShell) fails under the sandbox. OpenSSL-based clients (e.g. Python
urllib) succeed.
Expected vs actual
access, or external services" —
workspace-writeshould not block outbound network.non-zero process exit at runtime, so no
[sandbox: file access denied]marker and noescalation hint is produced — the model sees a plain failed command.
Suggested fix directions
CreateRestrictedTokenrestricted token, orexempt outbound-network operations from the restricted-token runner.
InternetClientcapability, orseparately that Schannel works at Low IL — but restricted tokens do not).
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