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This is a useful rc.5 observation. I checked the same boundary at rc.8 source revision The rc.8 projection now separates:
The Web occupancy display prefers Compaction does not read that UI projection; it calls For a surprising threshold decision, the most useful evidence is therefore: exact build, provider/model, adapter context window, resolved threshold, request-header identity, provider buckets, I mapped the field contracts, anchor eligibility, UI mismatch, compaction diagnosis, calibration dataset, and regression gates here: |
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Thank you for confirming that much of the proposed calibration/transparency contract has already landed in rc.8 — that is great news. The `pressureTokens`/`projectedTokens` split plus the documented approximate composition rows look like the right design, and we appreciate the conservative fallback in `tokenMeter.measure()` (reusing provider usage only when the request header matches and total usage is not below the heuristic anchor). Agreed on not blanket-changing the 4 chars/token heuristic from a single session — CJK, JSON-heavy schemas, caches and different tokenizers make that risky. We will gather the evidence fields you listed if we ever see a surprising threshold decision again. Thanks for the docs!
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Observation
token-meterestimates context size with a character-based heuristic(roughly ~4 chars per token) and exposes dual read-outs(surfaceTokens/pressureTokens). In a real long-running session theestimate diverged substantially from the provider's actual usage reported bythe API, in our observation by tens of percent.This matters because downstream policies — most importantly compactionpressure triggering (
thresholdRatioagainst the model's context window) —consume the estimate. A systematic bias shifts the effective compaction point:an over-estimate compacts too early (wasting usable context), an under-estimaterisks late compaction and provider-side context-window errors.Suggestion
prompt_tokensinto the meter(anchor the latest measured point; keep the heuristic only for the tailadded since). The data is already flowing throughllm/stream— no newAPI surface needed.estimatedorprovider-reported, so UI surfaces (and plugins building onthe meter) can present the uncertainty honestly.thresholdRatiomargins deliberately.Environment
@deepseek-ai/dsh: 0.1.0-rc.5 (global npm install)dsh weblong-running sessions (context > 200K estimated tokens)Note
Filed as an enhancement request; no functional bug — the heuristic works asdocumented, the ask is accuracy and transparency.
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