2026-10-15 (Thursday)

[AkihiroSuda]

How to join

• Date: 2026-10-15 (Thursday) 05:30 UTC (Wednesday 22:30 PDT, 07:30 CEST, 11:00 IST, 14:30 JST) - 06:30
• Link: https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/lima
  • Zoom, Video recording, and AI-generated meeting note

The meetings are open to anyone, not just for maintainers and contributors.

Attendees

@AkihiroSuda @unsuman @jandubois @afbjorklund

Agenda

Note taker: @AkihiroSuda

KubeCon North America

• Nov 10 (Tuesday), 16:40-17:10, "Lima as the Universal AI Sandbox" by @AkihiroSuda
• Nov 12 (Thursday), 10:15-11:55, Lima pavilion by @AkihiroSuda (can anybody else join?)

v2.3

ETA: by the end of October (fallback: the first week of November)

Blog

Anybody wants to step into write a blog for v2.3? → @unsuman
https://www.cncf.io/blog?_sft_lf-project=lima

PR reviews

https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/pulls

• feat: implement WSL2 native mount support via path translation and boot-time bind mounting #5189 needs review from @jandubois
• shell --sync: Allow excluding files/folders from rsync #4887 shell: Add sync-exclude flag and .limasyncignore file #4917 @unsuman took it over; needs review from @jandubois
• Update docs for handling flaky CI runs #5266 just a dev doc, not necessary for v2.3
• docs: document flaky CI runs and re-running failed jobs #5302 PR outdated, pinged the author once again
• fix(limactl): allow $EDITOR with flags #4935 PR outdated, closing and opening an issue limactl: allow $EDITOR with flags #5622. Not necessary for v2.3
• Minor improvements to kubernetes documentation #5222 waiting for the author to update the PR. pinged. Not necessary for v2.3
• windows-11: display resolution is fixed to 800x600 #5278 nobody is working, removed from the milestone
• Reduce usage of //go:embed (containerd.yaml, networks.TEMPLATE.yaml, etc.) #5295 pkg: externalize host default assets #5324 still no consensus. Removed from the milestone. Can be still discussed
  • Pro: inspect containerd version without executing limactl
  • Con: complicated
  • Potential alternative: merge containerd.yaml to the templating system? limactl info might be enough.
• user-v2: allow externally managed daemons (managed: false) instead of auto-starting lima's own #5464 still no PR, removing from the milestone
• networks: enable lima:shared, lima:host and lima:bridged on Linux #5486 A major update in v2.3. Needs multiple approvals.
• fix(cidata): resolve AlmaLinux 10 boot failures #5372 outdated; @AkihiroSuda will take it over. Since this is a bug fix this one can be also backported to v2.2.x.
• MCP: support async tasks #5504 still no PR, removing from the milestone (PR mcp: WIP support async tasks #5521 was just a placeholder)
• feature: support to specify vm instance dir #5497 previous discussion in 2026-09-17 (Thursday) #5499: amend the flags: limactl create --disk-path=/path/to/disk.img
  • waiting for the author to update the PR. Keeping it in the milestone, but can be removed.
• guestSocket forwards die with the SSH ControlMaster and are never re-created (silent on vz) #5420 keep it in the milestone. Assigned to @jandubois
• podman broke after fedora 44 update. #5572 needs to backport nerdctl: update from v2.2.0 to v2.2.1 #4484 to fedora-44 . @AkihiroSuda will take it over. Since this is a bug fix this one can be also backported to v2.2.x.
• autostart: set PATH in launchd plist #5579 waiting for the author to update the PR. Keeping it in the milestone, but can be removed.
• vz: add networkOpts.hostLoopback to block guest access to host loopback #5581 already approved, just needs rebasing. Seems trivial.
• limactl menu should return to the menu after invoking an action ("Shell", "Delete", etc.) #5593 @AkihiroSuda will take it over if nobody shows up to work on it. limactl-menu: return to the menu after running an action #5597 was withdrawn.
• Progress lines and log lines are mixed on the console #5601 instance: redraw the pending progress line after log entries #5602 @afbjorklund will review
• krunkit: fix ssh.overVsock=true on systemd >= 259 guests #5604 ideally should be fixed in systemd (kmod-setup: virtio drivers not preloaded on virtio-mmio-only VMs, ssh-generator skips sshd-vsock.socket systemd/systemd#44196), but will take some time. As a workaround the Lima-side PR can be merged.
• limactl menu: add an UI for creating new instances #5595 @AkihiroSuda will work, but not a blocker for v2.3. Keeping it in the milestone
• limactl w/o args: show menu by default when limactl-menu is present #5605 @AkihiroSuda will work, but not a blocker for v2.3. Keeping it in the milestone. Eventually it should show a question prompt to ask whether show the menu or --help usage
• docs: add limactl mcp to the command reference #5608 @AkihiroSuda will review
• limactl-menu: show separate titled CPUS and MEMORY columns #5620 @AkihiroSuda will review
• docs: clarify AI coding assistant disclosure policy #5541 @unsuman waiting for @afbjorklund

Tasks

• @unsuman Draft a blog for v2.3
• maintainers: Update and review the PRs (see above)

Next meeting

2026-11-19 (Thursday)

• Daylight saving time ends in US and EU

[afbjorklund]

Other projects:

Podman Desktop

The "lima" extension was moved from the core repository into an extension repository:

• Lima: Create separate lima extension podman-desktop/podman-desktop#17858
• Lima: remove from core podman-desktop/podman-desktop#19583

It is still available in the same way, e.g. kind was built-in and minikube was catalog...

SingularityCE EOL

https://sylabs.io/ - "Sylabs, Inc., ... has decided to discontinue ... SingularityCE (collectively, the “Software”) as of October 25, 2026"

https://github.com/sylabs/singularity/releases

SingularityCE was a fork of Singularity, i.e. from the same original project that was renamed to Apptainer when it joined the CNCF.

https://github.com/apptainer/apptainer/releases

[afbjorklund]

Their Lima template was here: https://docs.sylabs.io/guides/latest/admin-guide/installation.html#mac

The biggest difference between SingularityCE 4.0+ and Apptainer 1.0+ was in the "OCI-SIF" format:

• https://sylabs.io/2024/07/oci-sif-container-images-unraveling-their-features-and-benefits/

There is not much big uptake of it (afaik), so most are using either OCI (images/artifacts) or SIF.

[AkihiroSuda]

AI-generated meeting note

Quick Recap

The team held a meeting to review the 2.3 milestone progress and discuss upcoming releases. Akihiro announced plans to release version 2.3 by the end of October or first week of November, with Ansuman volunteering to write the blog article at release time. Anders provided status updates on two projects: Portland Podman desktop is separating plugin means from the main GUI as a technical cleanup, and Scilabs Sylabs is closing down Singularity CE and Pro services while Apptainer project under Linux Foundation is continuing the singularity type of containers. The team reviewed multiple pull requests and issues in their milestone tracker, discussing whether certain items should remain in the 2.3 release or be moved to future versions. They also addressed concerns about AI coding assistant documentation and commit message standards, with Anders providing feedback on terminology and policy alignment with kernel coding guidelines.

Next Steps

• Ansuman: Write a blog article for the version 2.3 release.
• Jan: Review the PR that was updated last week and is waiting for a second look.
• Akihiro: Ping the author of the outdated PR (D5302 docs: document flaky CI runs and re-running failed jobs #5302) and close it if there is no response.
• Akihiro: Close the PR regarding "other editor with a fox" "allow $EDITOR with flags" (fix(limactl): allow $EDITOR with flags #4935) and open a new issue.
• Akihiro: Ping the author of the "resume pressure downwards" "resume partial download" (feat(downloader): resume partial downloads via HTTP Range #5229) PR.
• Akihiro: Remove the "host default assets" (pkg: externalize host default assets #5324) issue from the 2.3 milestone and continue the discussion on GitHub.
• Akihiro: Remove the "external demo daemons for network with custom fd.soc fd.sock" (user-v2: allow externally managed daemons (managed: false) instead of auto-starting lima's own #5464) issue from the 2.3 milestone and discuss further for project 2.4.
• Akihiro: Take over the "fixing ArmoredX port failures" "fixing AlmaLinux boot failures (?)" (fix(cidata): resolve AlmaLinux 10 boot failures #5372) PR and backport it to version 2.3.
• Akihiro: Remove the "C++ async task in MCP" (MCP: support async tasks #5504) from the 2.3 milestone.
• Akihiro: Ping the author of the "specifying instance directory" PR (feature: support to specify vm instance dir #5497); remove from milestone if no update.
• Jan: Complete the "SSH control master" work for version 2.3.
• Akihiro: Backport the "Potsdam Podman broke after February 4th Fedora 44 update" (podman broke after fedora 44 update. #5572) fix to version 2.3.
• Akihiro: Approve and release the "disabling host group loopback" PR (vz: add networkOpts.hostLoopback to block guest access to host loopback #5581).
• Akihiro: Take over the "LimaCTL menu user experience" issue if no one else shows up to work on it.
• Anders: Review the PR regarding "progress lines and zeros appear" "progress lines and log lines are mixed" (Progress lines and log lines are mixed on the console #5601)) to confirm the issue is resolved.
• Ansuman: Keep the "systemd" workaround PR for Linux versions that don't have a fixed systemd (krunkit: fix ssh.overVsock=true on systemd >= 259 guests #5604).
• Akihiro: Work on the "menu UI for creating new resources" issue (limactl menu: add an UI for creating new instances #5595) and implement the proposal that "lima create" limactl should show the menu UI by default (limactl w/o args: show menu by default when limactl-menu is present #5605).
• Akihiro: Review the "add LimaCTL MCP to the command reference" PR and ensure no hard-coded plugin names are used (docs: add limactl mcp to the command reference #5608).
• Akihiro: Review the "migration managed networks on GNUX (GNU/)Linux" PR carefully and aim to complete it for version 2.3 (networks: enable lima:shared, lima:host and lima:bridged on Linux #5486).
• Anders: Update the AI coding assistant policy/PR to clarify "assisted by LLM" wording and the distinction between AI agents and CLI tools (docs: clarify AI coding assistant disclosure policy #5541).

Summary

Version 2.3 Release Planning Update:
Akihiro announced plans to release version 2.3 by the end of October or first week of November and requested someone to write a blog article at the time of release, which Ansuman agreed to handle. Anders provided status updates on two developments: a technical change separating plugin installation from the main GUI of Podman Desktop to make the basic installation smaller, and Scilabs' Sylabs' decision to close down Singularity CE and Pro services, with Apptainer project now continuing the singularity containers under Linux Foundation.

Container Runtime and Project Updates:
Anders provided updates on Singularity container runtime developments, including open sourcing of enterprise features and potential Linux Foundation project participation, though these were not directly related to Lima. The team discussed Portland Podman desktop's status on their website, confirming it remains an official program of the Kochiban District Organization (???) despite technical changes. They also addressed Singularity, clarifying that while there are templates for Ubuntu but not for Singularity, the updates don't affect Lima since there are no changes to their codebase. The conversation ended with plans to review peers and clean up items from the 2.3 milestone.

Pull Request and Issue Review:
Jan and Akihiro reviewed several pull requests and issues, discussing updates, reviews, and milestone status. They agreed to close some abandoned issues and open new ones where necessary, with Akihiro planning to ping authors for updates on specific items. They also addressed font size concerns (of the Web browser screen shared during the meeting) and reviewed the status of critical fixes and documentation updates.

Template Inspection Feature Discussion:
Akihiro and Jan discussed the benefits and complications of a proposed feature for template inspection (#5295), with Jan expressing confusion about the need for additional static files when Lima CTL info limactl info already provides relevant information. They agreed to continue the discussion on GitHub rather than including it in the current milestone. The conversation also touched on ongoing PR reviews and the need for design consensus on an external demo daemon for network with custom fd.soc fd.sock, including discussions on terminology (#5464).

Release Planning and Task Updates:
Jan and Akihiro discussed several issues and tasks, including timeline constraints for a two-week release, ArmoredX AlmaLinux port boot failures, and specifying instance directories. They agreed that the instance directory proposal could be kept in the milestone but is not necessary for version 2.3, and Jan confirmed it's not a blocker. They also addressed the need to backport fixes for Potsdam Podman and other issues to version 2.3, with Akihiro offering to handle some of these tasks.

LimaCTL Menu User Experience Discussion:
Akihiro and Jan discussed several issues including a change that Jan had detailed similar to what Ansuman previously did, which needs to be addressed before merging. They reviewed an issue about disabling a hostile group (???) that Akihiro had approved and needs to be released. Akihiro also discussed a user experience issue with the LimaCTL menu where actions like share or delete currently exit after execution, and proposed returning to the menu after completing an action. Jan suggested that Akihiro could close the existing crossed PR and create a new issue, which would likely attract developers to work on it.

Technical Updates and Issue Resolutions:
The team discussed several technical issues and updates. Akihiro proposed changing the default behavior for Berkshire's crunch limactl (?) to show the menu UI instead of help text, which was approved by Jan and Anders. Ansuman reported raising an issue in the system days systemd's GitHub repo related to System View Set virtio-mmio (?), and the team agreed to merge his PR while continuing work on upstream fixes. The team also reviewed pending PRs including LimaCDR MCP limactl mcp command reference updates and CPU/memory reporting improvements, with Akihiro taking responsibility for reviewing these changes. Regarding AI coding assistant documentation, Anders and Jan discussed clarifying terminology between "AI tool" and "AI assistant" while maintaining flexibility in commit message formatting.