xdg-desktop-portal-niri

[estnml]

Hi, i am wondering if there are any plans to develop xdg-desktop-portal for niri? Currently i am using niri with xdg-desktop-portal-gtk and xdg-desktop-portal-gnome. But these 2 packages install so many dependencies to the system. Minimalist system users would be very glad if custom xdg-desktop-portal for niri that supports screensharing, file choosing etc. be developed. Thank you for this great software!

[bbb651]

File choosing is very out of scope, niri obviously won’t have a file manager, so I’m guessing you mean delegating it to a file manager but that needs some common api and the file chooser portal is that common api - there’s nothing preventing file managers from making a standalone portal implementation like xdg-desktop-portal-gtk and you can very easily mix and match portals.

For screensharing and global hotkeys it makes sense, for example the way virtual cast target is implemented being a virtual display is a bit of a hack and the global shortcuts implementation in the gnome portal will make it impossible to set declaratively within the config IIRC, it’s just a lot of work.

[estnml]

yes, what i meant by file choosing was the file chooser portal as you said. I think many users use portals for screenshare, global shortcut and file chooser. Of course, there are also those who use them for different portals, i dont have detailed information about inner workings of xdg-desktop-portal. For starting point, only these portals can be implemented, then others can be implemented according to the need. I think niri having its own desktop portal can be a big advantage in niri's development.

[YaLTeR]

There are kind of plans. In fact I'm currently experimenting with xdg-desktop-portal-niri. My initial plan is a screencast dialog (with properly exposed dynamic target) and a filechooser that properly falls back from nautilus to something else. But idk when anything will be ready

[alicealysia]

I was thinking about this recently, and I'm curious whether it would be a good idea to fork or fully implement the cosmic desktop portal rather than building a new one?

Both being built on smithay I've found that almost everything inside the cosmic DE is fully compatible with Niri, and if you make them autostart via, xdg autostart, systemd, or spawn at startup, you can basically... just run a cosmic session with the niri window manager.

There's certainly still a few broken things, but if we were to base our implementation on cosmic's it would go a long way towards closing that gap.

[YaLTeR]

I mean, we don't need anything from the cosmic session. Portal-wise, we only need a few compositor-specific ones (like screencast), and we already have the infrastructure to do it through the GNOME portal, whereas cosmic would need a from scratch implementation. As for the file chooser, well, I like nautilus

[alicealysia]

That's understandable, and admittedly, I had foolishly assumed it would be easier to adapt than that 😅

I suspect you already know the portals we want and/or need, but what I'm most interested in is global shortcuts.

[Gualidan]

@YaLTeR Whats the state of this project? Would be cool because as mentioned this doesn’t help niri’s "lightweightness" as these two packages are objectively bloated (like for example forcing nautilus on these desktop portal user) many people consider this as a big issue that limits the attractiveness of this WM and prevents them from switching. Edit: Is there a way people can contribute to the portal if it’s publicly available at all.

[YaLTeR]

Stalled. I haven't published any code bc it's very incomplete

[Gualidan]

If you don’t mind publishing it I am quite sure lots of people would be willing to contribute as myself.

[youngcoder45]

I am Too Wlling to COntrubute

[Sinotiv]

@YaLTeR а есть возможность как-то использовать xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic в niri для демонстрации экрана?

[YaLTeR]

Очень сомневаюсь

[Sinotiv]

А в будущем xdg-desktop-portal-niri будет предпросмотр экрана, как в cosmic?

[YaLTeR]

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