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I will no longer be sponsoring here on Github without Paypal either, unfortunately. I can't imagine what idiot thought this was a good idea. Probably because PayPal took a small percentage of the fee for processing payments. Yeah, well, just wait until those Visa/MC processing fees start rolling in, especially when people use their "miles" cards that fetch premium fees from merchants (and ultimately, consumers). |
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Yeah, shame this is getting dropped. For us European users, where it is common to have a debit card but not a credit card, PayPal is often the only available payment option. This change makes it so that I will be unable to continue sponsoring people via GitHub. And I totally agree with credit cards being a frankly stupidly insecure method of payment. |
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Then forced to stop sponsoring also.
Narrator: But it didn't work. Sounds more like github/microsoft later introducing their own paypal competitor? |
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Just cancelled all my sponsorships because of this, sadly. Really don't want to store payment details on another site. |
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I wonder if they at least are honest enough to provide monthly statistics so we can at least say "told you so" after the numbers drop next month |
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PayPal is an absolutely horrible company, but it's unfortunately a monopoly that so many people have no choice but to use. I don't know what caused this change, but I wouldn't be surprised if PayPal themselves did something to bring about this change one way or another. Either way, I hope the fallout isn't too bad for the people relying on sponsorships. For people concerned over the security of using credit card payments online, I strongly recommend looking into a service such as Privacy that allows you to generate an unlimited number of virtual cards, with controllable spending limits and the ability to pause and close them at will. I believe they only operate in the U.S. at the moment sadly, but if you can use it, it's a great service. Your card company may also provide an option to generate virtual cards, though it may be annoying to actively utilize. |
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This is very bad news for small teams like us who desperately need sponsorship to continue working on their open source project. 😢 |
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Please provide ways to sponsor without credit cards. Lots of people were I live (Germany) do not have them and PayPal allowed payment without cards too! At least support SEPA, the standard way to pay in the EU! |
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How does the affect those of us that were pushed to Stripe. The announcement says Credit and Debit cards Only. |
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I turned open source into my day job in large part due to Github Sponsors. I am trying to switch to a creditcard myself for the people that I sponsor but my card is rejected: If people have a similar experience like mine, this will cost me a lot of sponsors. I'm really sad about that, but it was fun while it lasted. |
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support replied, that at least no need to do anything, paypal sponsoring gets automatically cancelled:
Any alternatives? |
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Thanks for the discussion and your perspectives so far. I thought I'd write again, the outcry didn't trigger any reaction or further explanation @github. I will pay for my sponsorships one year in advance via One-Time-Payment - Paypal is still activated there. |
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We currently have +500 sponsors – I'm seriously concerned what the impact will be. Please, @github, there must be alternatives. |
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Unfortunately GitHub frequently says credit/debit cards from my country are declined, but using those same cards through PayPal always worked. I don't know if this is affecting only sponsorships or everything, but either way people will lose the ability to pay. I hope this decision comes with a quick alternative for those people, and not just removing the ability to pay from many GitHub users. |
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I don't like PayPal – as a non-US citizen, I've had more problems with it than with credit cards. However, I agree that we need more payment options. Maybe look into other payment methods accepted by Stripe? |
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This, of course, is bad news. But there is Ko-fi may be a good alternative. |
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@github-staff this really sucks, you know. Maybe it's time for the Open Source community to move their projects to GitLab. https://www.gartner.com/reviews/market/value-stream-delivery-platforms/compare/github-vs-gitlab |
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This, of course, is very very bad news. if github sticks with the decision, i will look for an alternative to evcc. Too bad! |
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I only lost 3 sponsors so far, I expected it to be way worse, but maybe it's not over yet, or should users who paid with Paypal already be cancelled by now? EDIT: ouch, it's not over yet, cancellations are still trickling in. |
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I lost 1/5th of my sponsors thanks to this change. Very disheartening. The rate at which I receive new sponsors is not high so this put my progress back almost a year. Edit: 2 weeks later and almost 1/3rd of the sponsors I had have stopped. |
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Some new insights: if you have a webhook installed on your sponsors profile you can find out whether the sponsorship was cancelled by @github-staff by inspecting the {
"sender": {
"login": "github-staff",
"id": 21092374,
"node_id": "MDQ6VXNlcjIxMDkyMzc0",
"avatar_url": "https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/21092374?v=4",
"gravatar_id": "",
"url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff",
"html_url": "https://github.com/github-staff",
"followers_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/followers",
"following_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/following{/other_user}",
"gists_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/gists{/gist_id}",
"starred_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/starred{/owner}{/repo}",
"subscriptions_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/subscriptions",
"organizations_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/orgs",
"repos_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/repos",
"events_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/events{/privacy}",
"received_events_url": "https://api.github.com/users/github-staff/received_events",
"type": "User",
"site_admin": false
}
} |
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I've analyzed the damage – my calculations show that $240k/m in sponsorships were lost in 28 days. |
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I have stripe and then metapay accepts payments for developers as well |
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so, stripe is adding paypal payments support, why couldnt they just tell that in the beginning.. |
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WTF is wrong with U.S. companies?!
A credit card is the most insecure and privacy-poor payment method.
If Github will do so, I will not be able to sponsor anymore.
There are dozens of other payment methods - there MUST be an alternative!
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